Another 2020 engine failure

[JR369]

the sample size of GT350 owners on this forum in relation to actual ownership is tiny. And even in this tiny sample engine failures keep coming up. And seeing as how many GT350 have basic paint/panel issues the 'zero' claim is a bit wide of the mark. I don't think anyone is claiming materially worse than 20%, or hell even 5% probability of engine failure. But whatever the number, it sure seems it is a lot farther from 0 than it should be.

If the general public is left with an indelible impression (even if blown out of proportion) about "high" failure rates then yes, your ability to command a premium price on sale is reduced. It's just too bad. Ford baked the cookie and you get to watch it crumble.

And yet the needle moved in which direction? My Ford baked cookie cost more now used than when I bought it new. #bottomline

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[Egparson202]

Guys the unthinkable has happened, my 2020 went down August 17 and today I was told cylinder 7 was filled with coolant and also a bent valve. Car had 935 miles, what a POS engine. Full engine replacement is on its way.

What a bummer! 99% of us are just sorry to hear that happened and that it’s taking so long to get you back on the road. Nothing good about it.

I had something similar happen to me with another model at one point. In my case, it sucked in the moment, but once the car was fixed, it was fixed. It drove it for 5 years (80K miles) and eventually almost forgot about it. It was a great car that I really enjoyed owning.

I hope the same for you.

 

[Ravinshield]

What a bummer! 99% of us are just sorry to hear that happened and that it’s taking so long to get you back on the road. Nothing good about it.

I had something similar happen to me with another model at line point. In my case, it sucked in the moment, but once the car was fixed, it was fixed. It drove it for 5 years (80K miles) and eventually almost forgot about it. It was a great car that I really enjoyed owning.

I hope the same for you.

Thank you, much appreciated.

 

[stanglife]

Well, if what’s yours is yours, what’s mine is mine, right, so touché.

I have a valid point… whether you like it or not, if your engine failed because of a tensioner issue, the installer or the part failed the engine, not the engine itself.

 

[331GT]

lot of rustled jimmies up in here OP, good luck with it all, keep us posted with the pertinent updates. at least where you're at you're not losing precious nice weather driving time. if you were here in chicagoland this would be cutting into some nice time to drive it before winter. still sucks nonetheless though.

 

[Atlas1]

And yet the needle moved in which direction? My Ford baked cookie cost more now used than when I bought it new. #bottomline

I recently sold a 4 year old Toyota for $5k more than I paid for it. Used car prices TODAY do not reflect all that much. Not to take away from the gt350 but do you really think they would have appreciated this fast had it not been for the entire car market being turned upside down and entering clown world? Not me.

 

[Blwnsmoke]

I guess if it will make you guys feel any better I'll post pics of my car. Like the other guy mentioned, I have no street cred here, only reason I came to this forum was because my 2020 went out and I wanted it to be known that it's happening even to the latest year. I bought a 2020 thinking I was safe from all the previous issues with the voodoo but that wasn't the case.

Thinking you were safe? Anything built my man or machine can break, period. Sucks when it happens, that's what a warranty is for.

 

[Blwnsmoke]

Ohh, I didn't see the part in the warranty guide where it says if you have a mechanical failure, you get a free ESP.

 

[dom418]

I recently sold a 4 year old Toyota for $5k more than I paid for it. Used car prices TODAY do not reflect all that much. Not to take away from the gt350 but do you really think they would have appreciated this fast had it not been for the entire car market being turned upside down and entering clown world? Not me.

No no no, I’m headed for an early retirement because of the 350s current values. This inflation is only impacting the 350. Good day Sir.

Its funny every car group I am involved with think they are becoming wealthier by the day, and that only their particular make and model is appreciating in value.

 

[Postal Bob]

I know in the first post the OP stated what was broken in the engine. But did he get an answer as to why it happened? I'm curious if this was a timing chain issue, related to the TSB on the timing chains?

 

[JR369]

I recently sold a 4 year old Toyota for $5k more than I paid for it. Used car prices TODAY do not reflect all that much. Not to take away from the gt350 but do you really think they would have appreciated this fast had it not been for the entire car market being turned upside down and entering clown world? Not me.

They? No. An R? Sure. But you're missing the point of my post to begin with. @shogun32 tried to make a point that Ford built an inferior product. The market says otherwise.

 

[Atlas1]

They? No. An R? Sure.

Lol no. Other than the 05-06 ford gt, what Ford has appreciated this fast? Terminator? No
Any of the gt500’s? No
The R would have been no different. My Toyota went up in value a greater percentage than the gt350 from prices I’ve seen. What do you suggest I read into that? The 4runner is some kind of special vehicle on par with the Shelby? That some day on the Mount Rushmore of cars along side the flat plane crank there will be a Toyota suv? No. Supply shortages of new cars and people spending all of this newly printed money have caused prices to go up. It’s not that complicated to figure out. Again, this is not to take away from any of the shelbys. But it’s laughable to think that a car available in these numbers was going to spike in value this soon.

 

[JR369]

Lol no. Other than the 05-06 ford gt, what Ford has appreciated this fast? Terminator? No
Any of the gt500’s? No
The R would have been no different. My Toyota went up in value a greater percentage than the gt350 from prices I’ve seen. What do you suggest I read into that? The 4runner is some kind of special vehicle on par with the Shelby? That some day on the Mount Rushmore of cars along side the flat plane crank there will be a Toyota suv? No. Supply shortages of new cars and people spending all of this newly printed money have caused prices to go up. It’s not that complicated to figure out. Again, this is not to take away from any of the shelbys. But it’s laughable to think that a car available in these numbers was going to spike in value this soon.

We can agree to disagree here. The R is more iconic than anything you listed sans the Ford GT. And almost as rare as a Demon (3300) for total production numbers. It's one year out of production so we've yet to really see where it'll go.

 

[Atlas1]

We can agree to disagree here. The R is more iconic than anything you listed sans the Ford GT. And almost as rare as a Demon (3300) for total production numbers. It's one year out of production so we've yet to really see where it'll go.

I guess we’ll have to disagree. I would say the 03-04 cobra meant far more for its generation than the R does for this one.
my overall point was that current car values are meaningless as far as determining much if anything. When my local dealer has Kia tellurides at $10k over sticker sorry but I don’t look at current market for much guidance on long term value.

 

[shogun32]

The R will crash back in price bigly in a year or two once the used market has normalized.

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