2017 gt350 engine failure

[Voodooo]

Very possible, my only point is you can have 2 parts, nearly identical in dimension, be completely interchangeable, yet different.

Now you just want to argue!
They are not "nearly" identical. They "are" identical in dimensions.

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[mustang1]

Material is the same, or very close. Both break the same. At least according to my testing. Which may or may not be legit. And that was a while ago. Parts may be subject to change. Feel free conduct your own testing. Either way, I doubt you could get an MMR gear to break. That said, I think this would only be the third oil pump fail. At least posted here. One S/C GT and the red GT350.

 

[krt22]

Do some research my friend, this isn't the only 5.2 with oil pressure loss. Others have already confirmed failed opg's.

Do you have the links? I keep asking and keep getting nothing, yet some are convinced there are many documented cases of the OPGs failing

 

[Epiphany]

There have been quite a few 5.4/5.8 engines that with added boost (but not all) at the track, suffered OPG failures. A far more demanding metric, I fully admit. But I think it fair to say that the gear can be a weak link in the chain as much as it may meet Ford's minimum durability standards. Personally, I'd prefer a higher Factor of Safety margin with this part and would gladly pay the extra cost were it added to the price of the car when new. Alas, Ford feels otherwise and there isn't much you can do about it short of engine extraction or teardown.

 

[Voodooo]

Do you have the links? I keep asking and keep getting nothing, yet some are convinced there are many documented cases of the OPGs failing

Do you know how to use the search option?
Let me ask you this. What do you assume is the op cause of oil psi loss?
At least two others on this very forum have had OPG failures.

 

[krt22]

I'm not going to search, you are the one making the assertion that its likely the OPGs, not me, and are saying there are other documented cases.

I'm not going to do the legwork to back up the claim you are making, lol. I will simply call it what it is, speculation until proven otherwise.

And I have no idea what the potential cause is, there have been pretty random failures (documented ones) and most seem unrelated, so it's really hard to speculate.

 

[Tomster]

I'm not going to search, you are the one making the assertion that its likely the OPGs, not me, and are saying there are other documented cases.

I'm not going to do the legwork to back up the claim you are making, lol. I will simply call it what it is, speculation until proven otherwise.

And I have no idea what the potential cause is, there have been pretty random failures (documented ones) and most seem unrelated, so it's really hard to speculate.

You don't by chance own the opg company, do you?

I'm trying to figure out your angle or what dog you have in the fight.

Yes, nothing had been proven. Most agree that the OPG is the likely culprit. Did you think that people weren't going to chime in? Seriously, it's a forum and lots of people have nothing to do.

Relax

 

[krt22]

No dog in the fight, folks on this forum really like to speculate and magnify potential issues and then run with it, while I am more data/fact driven. It very well could be the OPG, I'd just like to know what facts everyone is basing their opinions on.

 

[Tomster]

No dog in the fight, folks on this forum really like to speculate and magnify potential issues and then run with it, while I am more data/fact driven. It very well could be the OPG, I'd just like to know what facts everyone is basing their opinions on.

I respect that, and I respect you. Just asking because it's starting to get heated and I'd hate to see people get pissed over nothing.

I'm going to wait to hear what the diagnosis is. I hope the person affected will continue to share information. We are all affected in a round about way.

 

[montreal ponies]

OMG it's like the tranny oil cooler debate all over again. Relax guys it's just a discussion forum.

Whatever Ford found out by tearing down the affected engines we'll never know, so everything we hear from owners with blown engines is just speculation unfortunately.

I don't know how many blown engines Ford needs to proceed with a recall ?

 

[mattlqx]

Serious question: what could be other potential causes of low/no oil pressure after a hard pull?

I don't think we heard if it registered zero pressure on the gauge or low pressure though.

 

[mattlqx]

I think its the same part. MMR advertises this:

2011 - 2017 5.0 Mustang GT Coyote MMR Billet Oil Pump gears
Starting at: $319.99
Simply the finest Billet Gears available for your engine, made from Premium US 9310 Billet Steel,

Fits:
2011-2017 Mustang GT
2016+ GT350

Apparently somebody else makes some too...

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1493496137350752&set=gm.1322896127777194&type=3&permPage=1

 

[unixadm]

Whoa. Some of you guys spend wayyyy too much time on the forum. Not every topic needs to be a battle royal.

OP - good luck getting your car fixed. Assuming it's at Folsom Lake Ford?

 

[KiLLeR2001]

At this rate, there are more OPG failures than failed oil cooler lines. I think we got a recall on the wrong part fellas.

 

[krt22]

Serious question: what could be other potential causes of low/no oil pressure after a hard pull?

I don't think we heard if it registered zero pressure on the gauge or low pressure though.

It's very possible man, I'm not trying to say it's not, I just didn't remember the cases of this happening.

I did search, it looks like it happened to Toodles for sure, and hizibullet was a maybe. 2 other failed motor cases were something else or inconclusive info from ford.

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