Lowering IATs

[NGOT8R]

WD

How hard is it to remove the grill to do this?

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[Joshinator99]

I'd log the tune, even with 100F IAT's the car should make decent power still on E85. Maybe the timing is turned up too much and it's getting pulled out? Like don't get me wrong, it's definitely gonna make less power than at say 65F ambients, but it shouldn't be crazy obvious to the butt dyno.

No way. You will never need to pull timing at 100 deg IAT when running E85.

 

[sms2022]

No way. You will never need to pull timing at 100 deg IAT when running E85.

I doubt it’s a tune issue it’s a pretty conservative tune. I’m now leaning towards a shitty tank of E. I’m almost empty and then I’ll fill up at another station.

 

[NGOT8R]

I just watched LMR’s video on removing the upper grille. I didn’t know the whole front bumper needed to be removed in order to remove the grille. If I were to do this, I would want to do it the way WD Pro did his (sanding the back of the grille). It also make sense to me to add a lightweight bumper support while right there.

 

[WD Pro]

How hard is it to remove the grill to do this?

I was unlucky / lucky that the front end had to come off before delivery, so I took the opportunity to work with the body shop, collecting the grill to sand the back off it and swap the badge, before giving it back to them with the big mouth.

I just watched LMR’s video on removing the upper grille. I didn’t know the whole front bumper needed to be removed in order to remove the grille. If I were to do this, I would want to do it the way WD Pro did his (sanding the back of the grille). It also make sense to me to add a lightweight bumper support while right there.

I will take the front end off again as I have that lightweight bumper bar to go in, and I want to add the Ford Performance gloss back bullitt lower grill.

My inlet route is sanded grill - big mouth - 18+ air box with the (older smaller) carbon trap removed - AEM dry filter.

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[EFI]

How hard is it to remove the grill to do this?

You have to remove the bumper, and the front grill is a bit of a pain to take off (if you're replacing it not just sanding it down which doesn't require removal).

Overall it's not hard to do, just time consuming.

 

[MAGS1]

I just watched LMR’s video on removing the upper grille. I didn’t know the whole front bumper needed to be removed in order to remove the grille. If I were to do this, I would want to do it the way WD Pro did his (sanding the back of the grille). It also make sense to me to add a lightweight bumper support while right there.

As EFI said, it’s not hard, just time consuming. The grille and bumper support can be a bit of a pain to get out but I found it fairly easy once the first few clips were popped out. CJPP has a really good video too (YouTube search the FP Bullitt Style grille CJ Pony Parts Install, Bill does a really good job showing all the steps).

 

[sms2022]

Front end is super easy to take off. I did it myself in my driveway to replace my grille.

 

[NGOT8R]

Front end is super easy to take off. I did it myself in my driveway to replace my grille.

I’ve heard stories about clips breaking and would certainly want to avoid something like that.

 

[MAGS1]

I’ve heard stories about clips breaking and would certainly want to avoid something like that.

Use a thin flathead screwdriver. You just need to create enough space for the clips to release (they’re the tabbed clips and are actually fairly robust). They are bit stiff so I could see one snapping if you get too aggressive with it. Once I got 3 or 4 of the tabs popped, I was able to just use my thumbs to separate the rest. Just make sure when you pop the grille back in that all the tabs click back in. The curvature of the grille makes some of them difficult to pop back in, just requires a little extra oomph.

 

[sms2022]

I’ve heard stories about clips breaking and would certainly want to avoid something like that.

Just be careful taking the actual grill out if you want to reuse it. The bumper side clips don’t break, the clips on the grill do but I only broke one of mine and the grill still fit perfect.

 

[paulm1]

Your IAT is 2 degrees above ambient at idle?

No, out on the road.

 

[paulm1]

I just watched LMR’s video on removing the upper grille. I didn’t know the whole front bumper needed to be removed in order to remove the grille. If I were to do this, I would want to do it the way WD Pro did his (sanding the back of the grille). It also make sense to me to add a lightweight bumper support while right there.

Using a dremel with a router bit was much easier than removing the grill. The grill is not weakened at all and cleanup easy with a shop vac. You need a steady hand. But pretty simple really.

 

[ice445]

No way. You will never need to pull timing at 100 deg IAT when running E85.

Oh I agree, that was kind of my point though. I guess lower E percentage was more what I was thinking, but as I said he shouldn't notice that much power loss.

 

[markayash]

They don't make one for the GT but added one for my Ecoboost..They claim it lowers air temps but not getting hot under the hood.
Plus its built and looks great

https://shopeurocompulsion.net/products/v1-air-induction-system-2015-2023-mustang-ecoboost-2-3l

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