Do you regret choosing your power adder?

[gsxr1300]

Mustang was never supposed to be a track focused car. It was American muscle a beast on the street. A PD turns it into a beast on steroids. With the introduction of the S550 its also a capable track car. I went with Whipple because i truly wanted it to drive like a reliable massive v8 with instant power anytime i wanted it and that's what i got with it. Instant fun. With the Whipple tune i could remove some of the boost in the lower gears if i had traction issues with just a few click of the laptop.

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[Forestlump]

Turbo has no real reason to be bad for daily, turbos are in general most effecient and least strain per boost psi on a motor. The problem with turbos is oil lines, coolant lines, tight clearances and heat soaking from the clearances, and of course most expensive system for boost

im happy with centri, i would love a whipple myself but i street exclusively, and drive year round in ny, snow, rain, or sunshine. So i need all seasons, i really dont want to use a slick as that takes away all rain and snow and even cold temp usage. For me, for now 265 all seasons with manual non pp seems to hold the pump gas power well enough, later on e85 il swap to a 315 all season and see if its possible, if not then a 315 summer tire.
Whipples biggest issue to me is the need for extensive tire and suspension mods to allow for putting the power down, otherwise its half throttle everywhere

Centri is great for auto as it combines 10 gears to maximize centri power band, but the whipple does a good job with it as well, to my knowledge the centri does better with heat so thats always an advantage if the auto keeps you in powerband

Unfortunately Wolfys11, despite giving as good a reason as any for you to chose a different setup for yourself, It's not Whipple so you are wrong

Only one way is right, for every possible situation.

 

[gsxr1300]

Between a whipple and roush, i would always go whipple for effeciency, the only good reason for a roush is for warranty reasons if the dealer installs and keeps warranty

Yes Whipple over Roush any day

 

[gsxr1300]

Unfortunately Wolfys11, despite giving as good a reason as any for you to chose a different setup for yourself, It's not Whipple so you are wrong

Only one way is right, for every possible situation.

if price is a factor or ease of install there are other options this is America. But seat of the pants instant gratification id Take Whipple over a centri. I have never driven a turbo setup in a Mustang. I did build a water to air turbo Hayabusa tho.

 

[engineermike]

Between a whipple and roush, i would always go whipple for effeciency, the only good reason for a roush is for warranty reasons if the dealer installs and keeps warranty

I know a lot of people disagree, but the Roush calibration is very good behind-the-scenes. I strongly believe Ford developed this for Roush, as it is very OEM-like.

 

[LOL WUT]

All hail Engineermike then and his physics defying wipple Mustang that can do everything better than yours including make tea.

There you go folks, if you want to FI your Mustang and not be told you did it wrong, speak to mike and his entourage of loyal fans!

A few data logs and a car forum full of experts has deemed the pinnacle of FI engineering as Whipple.

I'm off to buy Whipple shares!

Says some expert on a car forum.

 

[Wolfys11]

I know a lot of people disagree, but the Roush calibration is very good behind-the-scenes. I strongly believe Ford developed this for Roush, as it is very OEM-like.

I have nothing against the calibration and oem feel, but the whipple is a better value proposition to me, as well as miles better at heat management, and much higher easier upward power mobility.

i personally dont see a roush worth it unless you buy a roush mustang

 

[engineermike]

Just some rando posted log on the hpt site. 2015 mustang, procharger D1SC at 10 psi, air/air, 28 deg rise in 8 seconds at 59 deg ambient. All the air/airs act basically the same.

 

[tdstuart]

All hail Engineermike then and his physics defying wipple Mustang that can do everything better than yours including make tea.

There you go folks, if you want to FI your Mustang and not be told you did it wrong, speak to mike and his entourage of loyal fans!

A few data logs and a car forum full of experts has deemed the pinnacle of FI engineering as Whipple.

I'm off to buy Whipple shares!

No offense to you or your capabilities but I’ve talked to him on a variety of complex topics 99% of Mustang owners do not attempt to touch or understand and found that he knows his stuff and does research on things before he talks. I like that approach and sure you can call me a fan.

I personally wouldn’t go whipple lmao. I am in the process of going twin turbo. I’m just saying if he is saying something and giving you some data to back it up you better have a better argument than “well that’s not what I’ve heard” because that’s all I’ve seen in my 2 minutes of looking at this thread.

 

[gsxr1300]

It's actually Whipples calibration that was made by Ford Engineers.

 

[engineermike]

It's actually Whipples calibration that was made by Ford Engineers.

I know for some time that Whipple was using a contract calibration engineer to build the calibrations for their kits. I know he had contacts within Ford and potentially even worked with Ford or for Ford at some point. But when you look at how the mapped points are were managed, the spark table data, and many other aspects it becomes pretty obvious that Ford didn't play a big role in that cal. But the opposite is true for the Roush. In fact, the Roush cal, which was out before the GT500, has a lot of similarities and even some identical values as the GT500.

That said, I got my hands on a 2021+ whipple F150 cal and it really looks a lot like Ford designed it, or at least parts of it. This makes sense because Ford is rebranding the Whipple kit as a Ford Performance product so Ford would have to sign off on the cal and there's no way Ford was going to accept what was in the Whipple Gen3.

 

[80FoxCoupe]

Just some rando posted log on the hpt site. 2015 mustang, procharger D1SC at 10 psi, air/air, 28 deg rise in 8 seconds at 59 deg ambient. All the air/airs act basically the same.

That's actually pretty good IMO. I've never seen a rise that low. But then again I've never ran so little boost pressure.

 

[shogun32]

You must be a politician as well!

Politicians don't know when to beat a hasty retreat.

 

[andrewtac]

Been a bit since I've been suckered in, why not...

OP, they all have different pluses and minuses; depends on use and goals. They all work on the coyote.

Each one of them is some sort of compromise over the other, after all that is what engineering does. Takes scientific theory that requires absolutes and rules, then applies a bunch of assumptions, flat out ignores some things and will often apply real world use to develop a widget. A few folks in here understand this and have been around long enough to grasp this.

In this thread actual real world data is thrown out for internet myths. Data that is repeatable, measurable, and quantifiable. Then because of some accolades we must just dismiss basic physics, like water is a better heat transfer medium than air (this is extremely basic thermo, but aero thermo usually makes everything ideal gas and assume pretty much everything else doesn't exist).

But what do I know, all my education is from public institutions; perhaps I missed a few things. I do know Mike has a very good grasp and understanding of how modern engines work, to include tuning. He is on my speed DM when I can't figure something out, and has been more than helpful. Has never asked for anything in return. Ignore everything else I said, but consider taking this advice. You won't meet many Mike's in your career (as engineers, mechanics, etc); you don't have to agree with him but he Is likely correct. The guy who warned about the O rings on the challenger was probably a Mike.

 

[andrewtac]

BTW on my centri blower I have meth and nitrous to combat the IAT rise, and I generally only have the pedal to the mat for 9 seconds, hopefully 7 soon

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