Do you regret choosing your power adder?

[qwiknotch]

The ess kit running 5k isnt comparable apples to apples, as it makes very low boost. My kit cost 8500, and thats basically setting myself up for 900whp with a fuel system and pully swap for e85 power
Ive seen many whipple setups race many centri setups, it seems like often the centri wins if its same power weight to the same power weight, and it always gets to be a farther and farther gap the longer the race goes.
i always assumed that was due to heat, maybe its something else

either way, i myself wanted a whipple til i realized i didnt want to run a drag pack at 93 pump gas power levels, my ess does great using regular tires so far, we will see when e85 comes into play but the one biggest benefit to me as a street driver is the ess keeps the low rpms tame which allows for a great powerband when it comes to street traction

ESS wasn't around when I got my Vortech, but I am hearing good things about them. I have a 3.3 on my Jt now and with the Circle D converter, it is pretty brutal at the low rpms because the converter flashes to 3500. Best thing I ever did was get that converter, it really woke it up., even on regular radials

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[daSNAK3]

I love my Centrifugal (ESS), when I get another Mustang or F150 and they finally release the kit for that, I’ll gladly go ESS again. Only thing that would possibly interest me, is going Turbo.

 

[robvas]

The ess kit running 5k isnt comparable apples to apples, as it makes very low boost. My kit cost 8500, and thats basically setting myself up for 900whp with a fuel system and pully swap for e85 power

Yea but to make 700hp you could have just bought the base ESS kit. You can add a pulley to the base kit and make even more still.

You can turn the whipple up with a fuel system and pulley swap as well.

 

[CrackedHorn]

I went centri and part of me wishes I would have gone PD to have that torque down low.

If I would have gone PD, I probably would have wished that I went centri for cheaper/better traction and to keep the motor out of boost at lower RPMs.


I do wish that I would have gone ESS over Paxton, though. Having the head unit on the passenger side just needlessly makes a mess of things on this car. That and the inability to run the paxton in cold weather. And the fact that the paxton plumbing had a bunch of metal flakes/powder in the tubes that needed to be cleaned out before install. Doesn't give a guy the warm and fuzzies.

 

[hockeydave55]

Nope, no regrets on going with Procharger. I would do it again in a heartbeat.

 

[NGOT8R]

To those running a SC or turbo, do you guys have any 1/4 mile data to post here in this thread?

 

[80FoxCoupe]

To those running a SC or turbo, do you guys have any 1/4 mile data to post here in this thread?

Procharger F1A-94 here.

 

[Whitedevil95]

I had a Gen 3 Whipple 2.9L on my car for about 4 years. It was awesome, super fun and good low end power(which helped a lot at the drag strip). If I had had a Gen 5 Whipple I would have kept modding and building that set up, but the older ones cooling was quite as good. Also I had a whipple Terminator before that so I was really wanting to try something else.

I now have an ESS G3X kit and really like it. I dont really drag race as much so when I roll into cars and coffee or just cruise around town I really love all the the sounds you get from a Centri blower. I also do like the easier traction down low and the feeling of the Centri and it just keeps pulling and pulling.

I would say you cant go wrong with a coyote and boost.

 

[NGOT8R]

Procharger F1A-94 here.

Brother, you’re gettin’ on down through there! I love it!

 

[Wolfys11]

Not at

I went centri and part of me wishes I would have gone PD to have that torque down low.

If I would have gone PD, I probably would have wished that I went centri for cheaper/better traction and to keep the motor out of boost at lower RPMs.


I do wish that I would have gone ESS over Paxton, though. Having the head unit on the passenger side just needlessly makes a mess of things on this car. That and the inability to run the paxton in cold weather. And the fact that the paxton plumbing had a bunch of metal flakes/powder in the tubes that needed to be cleaned out before install. Doesn't give a guy the warm and fuzzies.

ess is also nice cuz no false knock from metal tubing hitting frames, its all well thought out and budget friendly. But the paxton/ procharger is a bit louder

 

[80FoxCoupe]

Brother, you’re gettin’ on down through there! I love it!

Almost got it figured out.

 

[Wolfys11]

Yea but to make 700hp you could have just bought the base ESS kit. You can add a pulley to the base kit and make even more still.

You can turn the whipple up with a fuel system and pulley swap as well.

Thats totally not true, a base kit has a g2 with g2 intercooler, it makes 600 hp, MAYBE 650 on pump gas if you push hard. To go 700 whp you need a g3x or higher, with a g4 intercooler, basically max effort kit minus the g4 which is for built motor applications generally

a whipple lowest power is like what, 650-700 whp? Definitly worth said money, but to make similar power, costs end up a LOT closer than youd think

But like others said, centri for noise and a much easier time with traction,
Whipple for more power and down low torque

And of course turbos for all of the above except a shitty install and cost

 

[robvas]

Thats totally not true, a base kit has a g2 with g2 intercooler, it makes 600 hp, MAYBE 650 on pump gas if you push hard. To go 700 whp you need a g3x or higher, with a g4 intercooler, basically max effort kit minus the g4

Alright, you have no clue what you're talking about.

how much HP to the wheels do you think this 9 second G2 car is making?

https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/threads/ess-centrifugal-mustang-superchargers.154557/post-3658667

Also, here's a Whipple 3.0 car making a measly 638hp, which is where the base kit on pump gas on a stock car will end up



as I said, the bare bones kit with either will make about the same power and you can turn them both WAY up on higher octane fuel and smaller pulleys.

 

[Wolfys11]

Alright, you have no clue what you're talking about.

how much HP to the wheels do you think this 9 second G2 car is making?

https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/threads/ess-centrifugal-mustang-superchargers.154557/post-3658667

Also, here's a Whipple 3.0 car making a measly 638hp, which is where the base kit on pump gas on a stock car will end up



as I said, the bare bones kit with either will make about the same power and you can turn them both WAY up on higher octane fuel and smaller pulleys.

I said pump gas… not e85, meth injected, or nitro to make the 900whp on a g2 unit. As well as sure, we can pump 30psi on a unit that is rated for 20, but is that REALLY an option for someone who doesnt want to do one dyno run???

i looked up a base whipple, from the we site im looking at a whipple stage 1 counts 750 flywheel hp, so lets say 675 whp, essentially what im making currently on a g3x unit. At least for a gen3 coyote, which is what i thought we were talking about?

im not saying a 100 degree pull using subpar gas wont make close to 600whp, or a low reading dyno

nor am i saying someone who is really knowing what hes doing cant take a basic setup and do work with it

Were talking about the average stang owner, not the leading slowest and fastest guys on each setup. The average guy bolts his stuff in and gets an email tune, which will bring us back to what i said

 

[robvas]

I said pump gas… not e85, meth injected, or nitro to make the 900whp on a g2 unit.

you're not going to make 900whp on 93 on a Mustang GT no matter what power adder you have. You're octane limited

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