Do you regret choosing your power adder?

[Wolfys11]

Nobody is saying 'Whipple is the best'. I don't know what you're going on and on about. I just replied to someone who said the boost drops towards the top.

Anyway, this is the 'fastest' list from the drag racing sub-forum, it's out of date but take a look:

Centri - 2
PD - 5
Turbo - 5

Nice
Now we talk about fastest drag times
Are you drag racing your car?
Do you even have a mustang?
What are you running?
What power are you at?

99% of people in this forum can disregard what the fastest mustangs with built motors are doing for drag races

we are talking about simple systems that eventually could go on to slightly less simple systems on majority speaking stock motors

not to mention, centri setups are roll racing setups not drag, but go ahead compare drag setups as thats all we all do

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[robvas]

not to mention, centri setups are roll racing setups not drag

 

[tdstuart]

Im a manual, with no pp, i spin 2nd only at high rpm and its so minor i hardly feel it

for the record, first gear??? Unless ur drag racing at a drag strip, you cant seriously be talking about first gear being used for anything more than getting going from a stop, if you wanted a fast car from 0 on the street, get awd

are you 650whp on auto with e85? Cuz im past 650 with pump gas, and my car hardly spins with drag springs, and you cant make the argument ur 900whp car spins so mine should too being 250whp less

First gear goes to 55mph for me so I think first gear is relevant. If I had stock tires I am sure 2nd gear would spin too.

My argument is my 480whp car will spin 305/35R19 Nt555r2 in first gear, and stock could spin nt555g2 in first and second so I have no idea how your 650whp car can hook in 2nd with stock tires.

I also have drag springs. Im not saying its not possible, just that it makes no sense to me how 650whp is even remotely usable to you on stock tires as my ~480whp is not

 

[Wolfys11]

First gear goes to 55mph for me so I think first gear is relevant. If I had stock tires I am sure 2nd gear would spin too.

My argument is my 480whp car will spin 305/35R19 Nt555r2 in first gear, and stock could spin nt555g2 in first and second so I have no idea how your 650whp car can hook in 2nd with stock tires.

I also have drag springs. Im not saying its not possible, just that it makes no sense to me how 650whp is even remotely usable to you on stock tires as my ~480whp is not

Dont know what to tell ya,
Other than i have stock all seasons 265 and drag springs on a g3x 120mm pully, logs looked good to wengerd so i assume im making what i should be making

im gonna be dynoing hopefully by christmas, but for me it almost never becomes too much to handle, if its spinning then its going perfectly straight and controllable

when i was stock, i couldnt spin 1st gear all that crazily as one would expect either

i will add in case this is the difference, i keep my engine bay traction plug plugged in, and drive with advance trac off

im sure if i took out the plug, the car would be a monster

 

[shogun32]

nd cuz for a 10 sec pull, the water wont even heat up compared to the air

I can't seem to find how many BTU or Jules needed to raise 1cc of water 1 deg, vs 1cc of air. The water figures I can find. Can't find the 'air' ones.

 

[wingnutt]

lol…y’all are funny

 

[robvas]

I also have drag springs. Im not saying its not possible, just that it makes no sense to me how 650whp is even remotely usable to you on stock tires as my ~480whp is not

1. not making the power
2. not at a high enough rpm
3. not flooring it

 

[Wolfys11]

1. not making the power
2. not at a high enough rpm
3. not flooring it

1. Why wouldnt i be making the power if logs check out
2. 7500+ rpms
3. Good joke. Still waiting on what you are running, since all youve talked about are other cars

 

[Basspro302]

But then what do you use to cool the water?
Air again!

All you've done is add another system in the loop. Air to water to air again, that adds another heat exchanger, pump, tank, hoses at the minimum, more if it's a chiller one. All extra weight over the front wheels, the last place the Mustang needs it.

Maybe we should just buy air cooled coyotes then. I will talk to my guy about fabricating some fins up so we can have air cooled heads.

 

[Forestlump]

Maybe we should just buy air cooled coyotes then. I will talk to my guy about fabricating some fins up so we can have air cooled heads.

Yeah, maybe you should ask NASA for some rocket fuel as that seems to work well for them?

 

[80FoxCoupe]

I did see it but i still think theres more at play with your data than what your saying

centri is notorious for heat effeciency, and any and all pd are known for heat soak

i couldnt tell ya whats wrong with the data that shows your story, but id need more data to believe it

ive seen a youtuber gt500 whipple swap making 1200 blow the motor cuz his temps went from 140 to 240, after one and a half pulls. Ive never heard of any ess setup on our cars even care about heat after all day racing sessions

Any 1200hp ess cars out there? When you find the one guy if he exists, post up the log to show his IATs.

 

[Wolfys11]

Any 1200hp ess cars out there? When you find the one guy if he exists, post up the log to show his IATs.

We dont need to go to 1200 hp to know whipples heat soak and ess dont

i never claimed an ess is the way to go for 1200 hp

imo anything 1000+ should go turbos

but im afraid to open that can of worms with yall cuz il get arguments that turbos arent effecient either

 

[80FoxCoupe]

We dont need to go to 1200 hp to know whipples heat soak and ess dont

i never claimed an ess is the way to go for 1200 hp

imo anything 1000+ should go turbos

but im afraid to open that can of worms with yall cuz il get arguments that turbos arent effecient either

IATs are related to the amount of power made. Saying there is a iat issue with a 28psi 1200whp whipple setup, but none with your 12psi 700hp is not a real comparison.

The whipple issue in question is likely that the cooling system cannot expel enough heat pass after pass to keep IATs at an acceptable level.

Make pass after pass on your car, it will trend the same. IATs will rise pass after pass and it will make less power. I assume that is your definition of heat soak. Not a 3sec hit on the highway. Full 1320 pass. Then again. If you run an a2a IC and on a full pass, peak iat is under 200, you don't make alot of power, or you are maxing out a tiny compressor.

 

[Wolfys11]

IATs are related to the amount of power made. Saying there is a iat issue with a 28psi 1200whp whipple setup, but none with your 12psi 700hp is not a real comparison.

The whipple issue in question is likely that the cooling system cannot expel enough heat pass after pass to keep IATs at an acceptable level.

Make pass after pass on your car, it will trend the same. IATs will rise pass after pass and it will make less power. I assume that is your definition of heat soak. Not a 3sec hit on the highway. Full 1320 pass. Then again. If you run an a2a IC and on a full pass, peak iat is under 200, you don't make alot of power, or you are maxing out a tiny compressor.

Im not the one comparing a 700hp pump gas setup to 1000+ setups with e85, im saying a similar power level setup, a ess will outshine a whipple on terms of heat

im also going to again advise we keep the conversation of the forum post for why we went what route and if we regret it, that other than a couple of us, none of us are running 1200+whp and provide any valuable information by talking about fastest cars when in reality we should be talking about the 600-1000whp range as thats what most make here

 

[Forestlump]

Im not the one comparing a 700hp pump gas setup to 1000+ setups with e85, im saying a similar power level setup, a ess will outshine a whipple on terms of heat

im also going to again advise we keep the conversation of the forum post for why we went what route and if we regret it, that other than a couple of us, none of us are running 1200+whp and provide any valuable information by talking about fastest cars when in reality we should be talking about the 600-1000whp range as thats what most make here

Totally agree about ESS kit, I should have waited and gone with that in the first place, saved a few pound and spent it on suspension = better allround car for money spent.

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