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I wouldn’t say must have but after having 1 w/o it and 2 with it. I’d take it everytime 🤷🏼‍♂️
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Now this looks interesting.

I have so many questions. Hopefully someone has installed this, or just knows more about it.

For PP1/PP2/Bullitt/Mach1s? It doesn't mention anything about software???


https://www.steeda.com/ford-genuine-40-1016-103-mustang-magneride-kit
What questions do you have ? They're OEM GT350/GT500 dampers, you can probably buy them from Rock Auto if they're in stock (or from Levittown).

@TeeLew will know more but they're capable of higher damping forces for stiffer springs and issue you're going to run into with stock VDM is that their current vs. force curve is different than stock and not exactly (AFAIK) publicly available.

It's a damper - it works exactly as stock PP1/PP2/Mach 1 one and the only way you can really take advantage of it is by driving them differently with an aftermarket controller.
 

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What questions do you have ? They're OEM GT350/GT500 dampers, you can probably buy them from Rock Auto if they're in stock (or from Levittown).

@TeeLew will know more but they're capable of higher damping forces for stiffer springs and issue you're going to run into with stock VDM is that their current vs. force curve is different than stock and not exactly (AFAIK) publicly available.

It's a damper - it works exactly as stock PP1/PP2/Mach 1 one and the only way you can really take advantage of it is by driving them differently with an aftermarket controller.
I know you're trying to be helpful.....but tossing out acronyms and terms like VDM, force curve and more, doesn't help.

The simple questions are; do these work (plug & play) with PP1/PP2/Bullitt/Mach1s?? Since they're listed as an "upgrade", I find it hard to believe there is no benefit to installing them if you don't change the programing.

But.....that could just be Steeda's marketing.
 
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I know you're trying to be helpful.....but tossing out acronyms and terms like VDM, force curve and more, doesn't help.

The simple questions are; do these work (plug & play) with PP1/PP2/Bullitt/Mach1s?? Since they're listed as an "upgrade", I find it hard to believe there is no benefit to installing them if you don't change the programing.

But.....that could just be Steeda's marketing.
1. Don't buy anything until those words do have some meaning.

The Shelby GT500 & GT350R both used Magneride dampers that made more force than those for all the other cars. This price is a little high, but not crazy for the set. As far as I'm concerned, these are the dampers *ALL* the cars should have been delivered.

These struts/shocks are plug and play with any Magneride cars and it will tighten things up significantly.
 
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The cut rate Mr shocks the eco and gt wit pp1 and pp2 got are under damped. Yes it's a function of the software to an extent but also the actual hardware used in the m1/gt350r/gt500 builds. If you have a gt/eco then yes replacing the front dampers in particular is a decent return on investment.

But as mentioned previously, the controller programming is the other half of the equation. If Steeda were selling their locked tuner for like 600 bucks that would be a very compelling path forward.

I haven't been able to find proof the rear shocks are different in the new batch vs previous. I waste a lot of money, but not having a Mr car myself, haven't bought a damper to take apart.

Tim might have a sacrificial unit. Otherwise I'd try to wheedle it out of Steeda tech department. Or vorschlag.

I got a set of multimatics for cheap, but so far haven't scored a cheap Camaro/Corvette/blackwing set to take apart and study.
 
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Well, I have FRPP magneride flash, so bolting these in may be a decent upgrade. Im not going to guinea pig this though.

Anyone have a thread or two on this subject of gt500/gt350 MR dampeners in a gt/etc? I'm going to give it a google, just thought I'd inquire since you guys seem to have some info on this already.

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Well, I have FRPP magneride flash, so bolting these in may be a decent upgrade. Im not going to guinea pig this though.

Anyone have a thread or two on this subject of gt500/gt350 MR dampeners in a gt/etc? I'm going to give it a google, just thought I'd inquire since you guys seem to have some info on this already.
You're not the guinea pig. I've been using the high damping struts for 25k miles with 450 #/in front springs. I'm using the standard rear dampers.
 

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You're not the guinea pig. I've been using the high damping struts for 25k miles with 450 #/in front springs. I'm using the standard rear dampers.
Awesome to hear!

So they just direct swap into a magneride car, which is weird that this is the first time I've come across this info. Lol

I guess I'll look into this further, seems like something I'd like to do.
 

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1. Don't buy anything until those words do have some meaning.

The Shelby GT500 & GT350R both used Magneride dampers that made more for than this for all the other cars. This price is a little high, but not crazy for the set. As far as I'm concerned, these are the dampers *ALL* the cars should have been delivered.

These struts/shocks are plug and play with any Magneride cars and it will tighten things up significantly.
Please clarify the red highlighted.

To confirm; these dampers can be installed on my car, without touching the programming, and it will tighten things up significantly?

Thanks.
 

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You're not the guinea pig. I've been using the high damping struts for 25k miles with 450 #/in front springs. I'm using the standard rear dampers.
IMO, and just street driving, it's the rear end of these cars that really needs the help.

When you write "high damping struts", you mean the GT500/GT350RMR struts, right?
 

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Awesome to hear!

So they just direct swap into a magneride car, which is weird that this is the first time I've come across this info. Lol

I guess I'll look into this further, seems like something I'd like to do.
The dampers themselves are not 'smart' devices. They just have 2 wires going to them which energizes a magnet. The difference is in the actual piston flow restriction. The good thing about these is that they've had to survive the entire Ford durability cycle, so you know they'll last quite a while.

I think the stock Ford Vehicle Dynamics Module (VDM) with the high damping struts is a pretty good combination. On average, you're probably doubling the damping forces which I think the car loves. It gives it much more of BMW M-car ride *without* going to the aftermarket controller.

Is Steeda changing their locked DSC map for these?
 

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Please clarify the red highlighted.

To confirm; these dampers can be installed on my car, without touching the programming, and it will tighten things up significantly?

Thanks.
Damned phone! I fixed it.

The Shelby GT500 & GT350R both used Magneride dampers that made more force than those for all the other cars
 

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Damned phone! I fixed it.

The Shelby GT500 & GT350R both used Magneride dampers that made more force than those for all the other cars
You're killing me smalls....... 😂 🤣

So if these GT500/GT350R struts are installed on a standard PP1/PP2/Bullitt/Mach1, they will tighten things up without having to touch the OEM programming?
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