So I tried Ceratec..

[accel]

pity we don't have a control group which is add a bottle to OLD engine oil. As written there are 2 variables at play. New oil AND the additive. It would be interesting to see if after the next 3 oil changes (no additive) when/if the tick comes back.

Old or new oil - does not matter. There's plenty of info here at the forum if one wants to google/search. There was some very active and resourceful time until TSB from ford came in basically saying - it is not harmful, will not fix, will not tell you what it was.

Potential issue with ceratec - you may have sediments in the engine. No one with mustang reported this, but I did find some at european car groups on this topic. No issues with the engine, but they did find sediments while disassembling.

My experience with tick starts back to pre-TSB time, when you could replace your short or even long block. I had it on my new engine before the first oil change, then got short block replaced - no tick for extended period of time, then tick came right back as a result of oil change - right away, before I could even exit ramps.

My personal theory is that _some_ coyote engines are very sensitive to even short term oil starvation. This starvation may lead to the tick whatever the nature of the tick is.

Read about Mos2 friction modifier at liqui moly site. Its original development was attributed to war time aircraft piston engines. It was developed for a situation when engine looses oil (oil starvation) - to give pilot extra time to get out of this dangerous situation. In other words, it handles oil starvation situation. Liqui moly considers ceratec as mos2's successor.

My personal feeling is that in order to _prevent_ tick it is important to have either mos2 or ceratec in _old_ oil _before_ the oil change. I mean, it has to be there for some time before in order to build that protective layer. In this situation oil change process is supposedly safer and less likely introducing the tick.

It you have the tick already, then it is not going away - the only additive that quiets it is ceratec. Mos2 will not do this.

Another confirmation to this theory is that according to euro forum members tick is not an issue in europe. They use Castrol Magnatec as OEM oil in there. Now, read regarding magnatec's features. In marketing terms they promise that the oil always sticks to metal surfaced and never leaves metal surfaces dry even after very extended stay. I.e. - sticks as a magnet, thus - magnatec, although the nature of this stickiness is actually different. SOund like this kind of a feature would also help during oil change process.

I'm concerned regaridng long term ceratec usage and plan on switching to this castrol magnatec thing. Right now I add one full ceratec bottle to oil, that's gen2, but plan on reducing this amount from 300 to 150 or even 100ml, observe and make further decisions.

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[Elp_jc]

I also wonder what are the effects of using that thing permanently. Ford (and all other manufacturers) calls out NOT to use any oil additives for a reason, I'd assume. The theory of using it right before an oil change, then dumping the oil, and just use a good oil until almost the end of the OCI and repeat, sounds interesting for folks who don't have it yet, like me (but only 900+ miles at the moment).

Finally, that thing doesn't get rid of the annoying 2K rattle, like it does the tick, right? I'd be very reluctant to use it, but if I get the dreaded tick, and it also gets rid of the annoying 2K rattle, then might use one bottle and hope for the best. But if Ford sees that stuff in the engine when making a warranty claim, it'd most likely be denied, and I wouldn't blame them, so it's a hard decision to make under powertrain warranty. Hope I don't have to make it .

 

[ice445]

Old or new oil - does not matter. There's plenty of info here at the forum if one wants to google/search. There was some very active and resourceful time until TSB from ford came in basically saying - it is not harmful, will not fix, will not tell you what it was.

Potential issue with ceratec - you may have sediments in the engine. No one with mustang reported this, but I did find some at european car groups on this topic. No issues with the engine, but they did find sediments while disassembling.

My experience with tick starts back to pre-TSB time, when you could replace your short or even long block. I had it on my new engine before the first oil change, then got short block replaced - no tick for extended period of time, then tick came right back as a result of oil change - right away, before I could even exit ramps.

My personal theory is that _some_ coyote engines are very sensitive to even short term oil starvation. This starvation may lead to the tick whatever the nature of the tick is.

Read about Mos2 friction modifier at liqui moly site. Its original development was attributed to war time aircraft piston engines. It was developed for a situation when engine looses oil (oil starvation) - to give pilot extra time to get out of this dangerous situation. In other words, it handles oil starvation situation. Liqui moly considers ceratec as mos2's successor.

My personal feeling is that in order to _prevent_ tick it is important to have either mos2 or ceratec in _old_ oil _before_ the oil change. I mean, it has to be there for some time before in order to build that protective layer. In this situation oil change process is supposedly safer and less likely introducing the tick.

It you have the tick already, then it is not going away - the only additive that quiets it is ceratec. Mos2 will not do this.

Another confirmation to this theory is that according to euro forum members tick is not an issue in europe. They use Castrol Magnatec as OEM oil in there. Now, read regarding magnatec's features. In marketing terms they promise that the oil always sticks to metal surfaced and never leaves metal surfaces dry even after very extended stay. I.e. - sticks as a magnet, thus - magnatec, although the nature of this stickiness is actually different. SOund like this kind of a feature would also help during oil change process.

I'm concerned regaridng long term ceratec usage and plan on switching to this castrol magnatec thing. Right now I add one full ceratec bottle to oil, that's gen2, but plan on reducing this amount from 300 to 150 or even 100ml, observe and make further decisions.

That's believable, I did my first oil change with Pennzoil Platinum and did not have a tick before, nor after. But I did something most shops won't do, which is pre fill the oil filter so there's zero chance of even temporary starvation.

 

[Elp_jc]

I always do that too, but really doubt it'd prevent the tick, no? It takes a second at the most to fill up the oil filter. More likely is the time it takes for the engine to get properly lubricated after every cold start. And that's why 0Wxx oils help, and I plan to switch mine at the 1K-mile mark (I'm pretty close). But since I will do both, we'll see what happens . But hope you're correct.

 

[ice445]

I always do that too, but really doubt it'd prevent the tick, no? It takes a second at the most to fill up the oil filter. More likely is the time it takes for the engine to get properly lubricated after every cold start. And that's why 0Wxx oils help, and I plan to switch mine at the 1K-mile mark (I'm pretty close). But since I will do both, we'll see what happens . But hope you're correct.

Maybe, but maybe not. The filter and oil cooler are on their own loop, and you have to consider the time it takes for the filter to fill up before it passes sufficient oil through the rest of the cooler and whatever is after.

 

[shogun32]

an oil change doesn't drain the engine of all oil - there's lots still sitting in passageways and so forth. And in any event, just cold-crank the engine to fully prime the system.

 

[gismo4]

Hello all! As an owner of what may be the highest mileage 2019 GT pretty much anywhere right now (38,000 miles) I had completely resigned myself to the bbq tick. It ticked from new. It ticked hot, it ticked cold. It ticked.

Regarding the mileage:
I drive my car year round, thanks to Blizzaks, and put a lot highway miles down. My car burns about a quart every 5000 miles and has been (other than a mis balanced drive shaft) completely flawless.

On my last oil change I popped in a can of Ceratec, half expecting to kiss my $25 goodbye, or worse.

Thing is, that junk actually worked. The bbq tick is gone. I’m frankly shocked that a product actually did...something.

Do you have an oil pressure gauge? I'm curious if you've been keeping an eye on it and if this made any difference during spirited driving. These cars seem to really spike above 3k rpms.

 

[accel]

That's believable, I did my first oil change with Pennzoil Platinum and did not have a tick before, nor after. But I did something most shops won't do, which is pre fill the oil filter so there's zero chance of even temporary starvation.

The time when my engine would tick right after the oil change I also pre-filled the filter. I always do when change oil myself. So, this alone will not save you.

On top of it I started doing something I never did before - cold cranking until pressure builds up, but cannot tell you if this makes any difference as I had ceratec in by then.

 

[accel]

an oil change doesn't drain the engine of all oil - there's lots still sitting in passageways and so forth. And in any event, just cold-crank the engine to fully prime the system.

You can stick to common sense until you got the tick.

 

[SL8888]

Has anyone used this additive in the 5.2 "Voodoo" ?

 

[jrsimon27]

Amazing ford says its normal and they never explained why the engine ticks

 

[Daryl333]

So both Me and my buddy, both 19 gts, had ticks. I bought us some cans of this(we only used one each) and I swear the second i poured it in the ticks stopped and the engine ran smoother and it made an actual noticeable difference. We are both sold on it. From what I understand it is not an oil modifier but it coats and sticks to the metal surfaces using your oil as a carrier. It reduces wear and friction. IM guessing the coating makes what ever it is ticking slick enough that it slides and stops ticking??? no idea I just know IM sold on the stuff and so is my buddy who never buys into additives but hes already ordered his next couple cans.

Yup.
I was amazed after adding the Cera-Tec my tick was gone within a half hour and hasn't returned.
1 oil change and another bottle since.

 

[Bikeman315]

Amazing ford says its normal and they never explained why the engine ticks

Nothing amazing about it. If they admit it’s not normal they would be on the hook for the repair costs. Of course, that’s presuming they know exactly what the issue is and have a way to fix it.

 

[Kong76]

Do you need to use it at every oil change or is it a one time thing?

I found that after an oil change that had Ceratec, the tick came back so yea every oil change.

 

[Bl@cknight18GT]

I've been using it since 5000 miles on every oil change, every 5000 miles. No tick after the Ceratec. I only use 1 bottle with Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5w-30.

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