Liquid Moly Ceratec

Discussion in 'V8 5.0L Engine / Mods: Bolt-ons, Exhaust, Tuning' started by 1MEAN18, May 17, 2019.

  1. 1MEAN18

    1MEAN18 Well-Known Member

    First Name:
    Mike
    Vehicle(s):
    2018 Mustang GT and a 2018 Fiesta ST
    Joined:
    May 5, 2019
    Location:
    Ohio
    Posts:
    142
    Likes Received:
    76
    0   0   0
    #1 1MEAN18, May 17, 2019
    Last edited: May 17, 2019
    It's like the Frank's Red Hot of the automotive world.... I put that sh!t in everything! Tell me what you use, and lets discuss the engine oil additives that you swear by. Warning....butthurt feelings and hate for oil additives which some people think is voodoo in 3...2....1.....because this for some reason is a controversial subject to say the least! But I swear by Ceratec (and Marvel Mystery Oil).
     
  2. liv2roc

    liv2roc Member

    First Name:
    Randy
    Vehicle(s):
    2017 mustang gt/cs ,2004 Mustang Mach1, 1984 mustang gt 350
    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2018
    Location:
    cherryville nc
    Posts:
    23
    Likes Received:
    7
    0   0   0
    I put ceratec in mine about 600 miles ago and the tick is still gone for now.
     
    gstboy69 and stanglitt like this.
  3. BmacIL

    BmacIL Enginerd

    Vehicle(s):
    2015 Guard GT Base, M/T
    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2014
    Location:
    Naperville, IL
    Posts:
    12,911
    Likes Received:
    7,077
    Garage Profiles:
    1
    Rating:
    100%
    3   0   0
    I have tried it versus their MoS2 anti-wear and am not that impressed. MoS2 had better results for me.
     
  4. bootlegger

    bootlegger Enginerd

    First Name:
    James
    Vehicle(s):
    Ex 2008 Mustang GT Owner
    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2017
    Location:
    Mount Pleasant, SC
    Posts:
    1,570
    Likes Received:
    493
    0   0   0
  5. OP
    OP
    1MEAN18

    1MEAN18 Well-Known Member

    First Name:
    Mike
    Vehicle(s):
    2018 Mustang GT and a 2018 Fiesta ST
    Joined:
    May 5, 2019
    Location:
    Ohio
    Posts:
    142
    Likes Received:
    76
    0   0   0
    I'll let him reply also. Just wanted to weigh in, I've tried both, and like most people (if you read reviews) I prefer the Ceratec. But I don't think you can go wrong with either product... Definitely worth the money. As for "tick" (A YouTubers myth in my opinion) mine's an early 2018 build, and I've never heard a noise from mine except for loud injectors and a little DI pump sound. I put Ceratec in mine at 500 miles when I ditched the factory oil, then again at 3k miles when I switched from 5W20 Mobil to a far superior diesel oil Rotella T6 5W40...I did so because it has better additives to help deal with the extra acidic blowby that comes from running an E85 tune. I recommend a heavier oil, in all n/a coyote engines whether you are boosted or not, its just smart insurance and costs the same, so why not? Mechanics in the know do this, and so do drag racers.
     
  6. BmacIL

    BmacIL Enginerd

    Vehicle(s):
    2015 Guard GT Base, M/T
    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2014
    Location:
    Naperville, IL
    Posts:
    12,911
    Likes Received:
    7,077
    Garage Profiles:
    1
    Rating:
    100%
    3   0   0
    Yes that one. No tick but I noticed a non-placebo reduction in engine noise under load (like 6th gear cruise) and a few other conditions from that, which returned when I switched to ceratec. Not knocking ceratec, as I know that people have had great results. I just didn't notice anything significant.
     
  7. engineermike

    engineermike Well-Known Member

    Vehicle(s):
    2018 GTPP A10
    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2018
    Location:
    La
    Posts:
    803
    Likes Received:
    520
    0   0   0
    I’ve personally spoken to lube oil formulators and their greatest challenge is finding the right “balance” of additives. Some additives work with each other to improve the anti-wear film, while some work against each other and compete for surface area. Too much of one might be completely wasted or rob surface area from another that is needed. Then, they are faced with the solubility limit of the base oil (group 1>group 3>group 4) that also limits the amount of additive, so it could just wind up laying in the bottom of the oil pan or worse, prevent the oil from dissolving varnish or carbon. They basically scared me out of trying any additives. PP euro 5w40 here, fwiw.
     
    BmacIL likes this.
  8. bootlegger

    bootlegger Enginerd

    First Name:
    James
    Vehicle(s):
    Ex 2008 Mustang GT Owner
    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2017
    Location:
    Mount Pleasant, SC
    Posts:
    1,570
    Likes Received:
    493
    0   0   0
    My early build (second production run) has rattled forever. However, Ceratec changed the RPM range of the rattle, which is more livable. I have a very mild tick that started around 5200 miles (last month), but I have only used a half bottle of ceratec up to this point. I am going to pour the other half in and see if the tick disappears. Ceratec is pricey stuff though.
     
  9. boB

    boB Well-Known Member

    First Name:
    boB
    Vehicle(s):
    2019 GT
    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2018
    Location:
    FL
    Posts:
    180
    Likes Received:
    124
    0   0   0
    I do not know more about oil and additives than the engineers and chemists at the oil company so I use their products as is. I also do not know more about my engine than the engineers at Ford so I follow their specifications for 5W-20 with no extra additives.
    Ymmv...
     
    strike-eagle, Silver Bullitt and fb1 like this.
  10. ChiTownStang26

    ChiTownStang26 Well-Known Member

    Vehicle(s):
    2016 Mustang GT Premium ~2016 Mustang V6(sold)~
    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2016
    Location:
    Chicago
    Posts:
    215
    Likes Received:
    45
    0   0   0
    @1MEAN18

    Could you explain why 5w-40 is the smart solution? I thought in colder climates like the one I live in you shouldnt use that thick of an oil. I'm an oil noob so any info you can throw my way is much appreciated.
     
  11. BmacIL

    BmacIL Enginerd

    Vehicle(s):
    2015 Guard GT Base, M/T
    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2014
    Location:
    Naperville, IL
    Posts:
    12,911
    Likes Received:
    7,077
    Garage Profiles:
    1
    Rating:
    100%
    3   0   0
    I've been meaning to try that. I'm going to try Redline 5W30 here relatively soon in prep for the summer's events (several autocrosses and a couple track days, along with aggressive DD'ing).
     
  12. Mustang Tony

    Mustang Tony Well-Known Member

    First Name:
    Tony
    Vehicle(s):
    '18 Mustang GT 10R80 PP1 401A Magneride
    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2018
    Location:
    Los Angeles
    Posts:
    70
    Likes Received:
    35
    Occupation:
    CPA
    0   0   0
    And 5w 30 is acceptable. The manual says so....
     
  13. OP
    OP
    1MEAN18

    1MEAN18 Well-Known Member

    First Name:
    Mike
    Vehicle(s):
    2018 Mustang GT and a 2018 Fiesta ST
    Joined:
    May 5, 2019
    Location:
    Ohio
    Posts:
    142
    Likes Received:
    76
    0   0   0
    I use it, in a diesel spec because I run E85. It helps with the more acidic blowby and gives the oil a chance to last a bit longer between changes. If I only ran gas, I wouldn't feel the need for this spec of oil. Ford recommends 5W50 use in our coyotes for racing, its in the manual actually. Anyone running boost, or E85 and cares about seeing their engine last longer, uses it. I use it exclusively in my 5.0 L as well as my little 1.6 L turbo in my Fiesta ST (which I run an E30 tune on). Great stuff! Hope that helps.
     
    stanglitt and ChiTownStang26 like this.
  14. OP
    OP
    1MEAN18

    1MEAN18 Well-Known Member

    First Name:
    Mike
    Vehicle(s):
    2018 Mustang GT and a 2018 Fiesta ST
    Joined:
    May 5, 2019
    Location:
    Ohio
    Posts:
    142
    Likes Received:
    76
    0   0   0
    I use 1 1/2 bottles of Ceratec per oil change. Yeah, its expensive, but so is the hassle of engine failure (even if its covered under warranty). I buy 3 bottles at a time for approx. $17.50 a bottle. I use it in both of my new Ford engines...and they both purr like a newborn kitty. Zero tick. 3,300 miles on the clock so far.
     
    stanglitt and bootlegger like this.
  15. engineermike

    engineermike Well-Known Member

    Vehicle(s):
    2018 GTPP A10
    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2018
    Location:
    La
    Posts:
    803
    Likes Received:
    520
    0   0   0

    5w40 has the same cold viscosity as 5w20.
     
    bootlegger likes this.
  16. boB

    boB Well-Known Member

    First Name:
    boB
    Vehicle(s):
    2019 GT
    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2018
    Location:
    FL
    Posts:
    180
    Likes Received:
    124
    0   0   0
    The only place I can find a reference to 5W-50 in the 2019 v2 manual is for track use for the 2.3 EcoBoost. That manual specifies 5W-30 for track events for the 5.0. Since your engine is probably nowhere near stock the Ford recommendation would not be correct anyhow but have you found a manual newer than v2?
     
  17. liv2roc

    liv2roc Member

    First Name:
    Randy
    Vehicle(s):
    2017 mustang gt/cs ,2004 Mustang Mach1, 1984 mustang gt 350
    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2018
    Location:
    cherryville nc
    Posts:
    23
    Likes Received:
    7
    0   0   0
    I'm on my 2nd engine with 10k miles on this one tick started with the 2nd oil change on this engine,I put one bottle of ceratec in and it stopped ticking right away with 600 miles on it so far no tick. but it did call for more than one bottle I only put one in. says one bottle treats 6 qts.
     
  18. Biggus Dickus

    Biggus Dickus Well-Known Member

    First Name:
    G
    Vehicle(s):
    Focus RS, Mustang GT
    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2019
    Location:
    San Bernardino County
    Posts:
    111
    Likes Received:
    112
    0   0   0
    To be devil's advocate: If this stuff was so great or beneficial or wonderful, why wouldn't Ford (or other Mfr.) put it in the car at the factory?
     
    Automobilist, boB and Qcman17 like this.
  19. liv2roc

    liv2roc Member

    First Name:
    Randy
    Vehicle(s):
    2017 mustang gt/cs ,2004 Mustang Mach1, 1984 mustang gt 350
    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2018
    Location:
    cherryville nc
    Posts:
    23
    Likes Received:
    7
    0   0   0
    You think Ford wants there cars to last longer? they just want them to make it til warranty runs out. I make Bearings for a living and we have a costumer that builds 18 wheeler trailers there bearings were lasting over a million miles so they made us redesign them and take some rollers out so they would fail sooner.
     
    stanglitt and Tickitty Tock like this.
  20. engineermike

    engineermike Well-Known Member

    Vehicle(s):
    2018 GTPP A10
    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2018
    Location:
    La
    Posts:
    803
    Likes Received:
    520
    0   0   0
    They reduced the roller count in automotive bearings about 10 years ago to reduce drag and improve fuel economy.

    I would also point out that the ford oil specs are more stringent than api.
     
    stanglitt likes this.
Loading...

Share This Page