Question for the manual guys

[ice445]

So I've only owned my car for 4 whole years, but I recently realized something. I always though the hill hold feature sucked balls on this car compared to others I've used, since it took so long to stop holding the brakes. But then the other day I actually hit the gas first before releasing the clutch slightly after, and boom, instant release. Easily repeated. Works great.

I'm pretty sure the car will add gas for you to some extent if you clutch out without touching the pedal, which has led to the habit of me just using the clutch only to get going most of the time. The problem is that me doing things this way meant the hill hold didn't recognize me trying to go, so it would just time out after like 2 seconds or whatever it is that I thought was too long.

So my question is, how many of you take off with clutch only? Mind you it's a pretty slow takeoff doing that, and the throttle will close before you can get back on the gas to actually accelerate in 1st, but it's still pretty smooth overall. But I realized I've been doing it this way forever even though the majority of manual cars I've owned or driven require some gas to be added after you hit the bite.

I know I'm obviously getting my manual card revoked regardless here, but I'm just hoping I'm not the only one. It always just seemed like what the car wanted me to do, lol. And I know hill hold isn't exactly a necessary feature but I wonder if anyone else has noticed the same thing or if I'm just retarded.

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[paulm1]

I never take off with clutch only and use the hill hold daily, steep hill right outside work. My car threw a code once and went into limp mode, some torque calculation error thing. Anyway the anti-stall goes away in that mode. Made me realize how much throttle is added when starting out, I stalled it like 3 times. It felt like my old 87 foxbody.

 

[ice445]

I never take off with clutch only and use the hill hold daily, steep hill right outside work. My car threw a code once and went into limp mode, some torque calculation error thing. Anyway the anti-stall goes away in that mode. Made me realize how much throttle is added when starting out, I stalled it like 3 times. It felt like my old 87 foxbody.

Thanks for this valuable evidence, I figured some tomfoolery was going on in the background, lol. I guess it is the anti stall just doing all the work for me then....

 

[RiotfunK]

I thought the hold action was too aggressive and turned mine off after a day of owning the car. I find it easier to just use the throttle and clutch to go when stopped on a hill.

 

[coz0502]

I live in Florida so hill assist is never used. I do sometimes just release the clutch and let the car take off before hitting the gas. Usually that is in tight spaces. When I first got the car, I was testing the grab point with the clutch and thought it was pretty cool this was the first manual I've owned where you could feather the clutch without gas and it wouldn't stall LOL.

 

[junits15]

I think it’s bad, I’ve used the same feature on other cars, even another ford and it was way better.
The one on the Mustang holds for too long

 

[nicksalvadore24]

I've noticed the same thing, when you give more gas it'll release the brakes earlier. After I noticed that the first time it's all I do now, I never take off with just clutch on a hill

 

[agmattocks]

I've been driving manuals for 40 years and Like you I was used to always goosing the gas at take off. It took me a while to trust the hill hold but use it all the time when I'm in traffic or don't need to stage at the light. It is now seamlessly integrated into my driving style.

 

[5doorsoffury]

the only time I use all clutch no throttle is if I'm trying to sneak out of my block without waking everyone up. I can get to 3rd without touching the throttle. first car with hill assist and all I drove was stick so never realized how nice it is until my foot slipped off the pedal in the middle of a feather and the car didn't stall

 

[Weyland-Yutani]

I've been driving manuals for 40 years and Like you I was used to always goosing the gas at take off. It took me a while to trust the hill hold but use it all the time when I'm in traffic or don't need to stage at the light. It is now seamlessly integrated into my driving style.

I guess it's about the same for me. I haven't really noticed any delay. The hill assist just cancels as soon as I go.

I wonder what feedback it gets to know when to release?

 

[Bobn57]

I have the feature turned on but am on the gas as soon as i let out the clutch......force of habit.

 

[First Stang]

I use clutch only to lurch forward on relatively flat terrain. The car doesn’t seem to mind. other than the owners manual, it would be nice if there was a very detailed presentation video on this and other ‘tech’ in our cars. I’d like to know what triggers the brake release (forward motion vs accelerator engagement vs timed gradual release).

 

[cmxPPL219]

The hill hold feature was on by default and was one of the first things I turned off when I drove it home.
I echo other comments about it not being "reactive enough." I've been driving manuals since I got my license at 16 and drove cars with no anti-stall courtesy of the ECU. I have always been more "manual" in my approach, I also don't even use rev match, I heel-toe and blip downshifts manually.

More to your Q Ryan, I used to park in an underground garage at work downtown, and it was a spiral, uphill incline to get out - now, when leaving after the work day, it was jammed up, cars stopped on this very steep incline, as the garage exit came out onto a busy main street and sidewalk, which was also jammed. So having to wait on this incline and stop/go - I still never used hill hold. Just manually throttle and clutch. My thought is it keeps your skills fresh and alert, as the clowns behind you are also up on your A** so little room for error. On flat roads, I'll just use the clutch to get going.

 

[SBR70.3]

You know that scene from Ford v Ferrari where Ken Miles is explaining to the guy how he should be driving the car? I believe he recommends shifting around 5k rpm. Try that when starting on a hill.


Side note, Ford needs to make a Ken Miles edition Mustang.

 

[Crew4991]

I never liked hill hold honestly. I think it is a GREAT feature but I turned it off.
I think it is easier to find the bite point without hill hold plus I like sliding backward unannounced sometimes lol

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