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I talked about that on another thread. Never had that on any other manual car, so I was surprised. Apparently it's the 'wet-clutch' syndrome, that when you engage 1st gear before the tranny stops, it clunks. Ha ha. Having said that, I wouldn't call it a 'thud', but more like a clunk. It's subtle, at least in my car. But yes, I can both hear it AND feel it, which the latter is slightly annoying, but not a big deal. Basically all cars have some idiosyncrasies, but I agree that shouldn't be one of them :D.
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I've had 2 ......

I put 45K miles on my 2014 with ZERO problems and now my 2019 has 20K miles and actually seems smoother than the 2014......NO COMPLAINTS so far!!:like::like:
 

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I have had WOT lockout a handful of times and the typical crunchy until warm feeling. Under normal driving it feels fine and 97% of the time if feels fine when driven hard.

My main complaint is the clutch feels chattery and I’ve never known a stock clutch vehicle to feel like it vibrates or chatters (there’s no noise, but you feel the vibration at lower RPM). So it’s either the clutch for flywheel. It was like this when I purchased it (5,800 mi) and I doubt the original owner caused that issue. I have some type of mechanical noise I can adjust with light input on the clutch pedal so I am guessing TOB or something of the likes.
 

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I've had 2 ......

I put 45K miles on my 2014 with ZERO problems and now my 2019 has 20K miles and actually seems smoother than the 2014......NO COMPLAINTS so far!!:like::like:
I put 190K+ on my 2011 with no problems (hell - it had the original trans fluid when I sold it) and it still worked fine. The 2019 seems to be working fine.
 

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My main complaint is the clutch feels chattery and I’ve never known a stock clutch vehicle to feel like it vibrates or chatters (there’s no noise, but you feel the vibration at lower RPM). So it’s either the clutch or flywheel. It was like this when I purchased it (5,800 mi) and I doubt the original owner caused that issue.
Hey, that was a pretty good description of what I've felt a few times, when pulling the car into the garage the last few feet. Don't feel any chatter during normal launches, so it's hard to explain mechanically. My car had 66 miles (320 now) before I test drove it, and also doubt anything happened to the clutch with so few miles. At least I'm happy somebody else has my 'problem', so not the only one :D. It's not a big deal, at least so far, but it's the first time I've felt that on a manual car in several decades. Hopefully just the 'nature of the beast' :).
 

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Is the tranny perfect? No. But neither were the T45, or 3650 that were before it. Those were also notoriously problem riddled, more so than the MT-82 IMO. Heck how long were the stock 32v 4.6 cars blowing rears with just good rubber and no one filed a suit over that.
 

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Is the tranny perfect? No. But neither were the T45, or 3650 that were before it. Those were also notoriously problem riddled, more so than the MT-82 IMO. Heck how long were the stock 32v 4.6 cars blowing rears with just good rubber and no one filed a suit over that.
The T45 in my old GT served me well through countless bottles of nitrous and sticky tires. The clutch on the other hand.. lol.
 

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I traded in a beautiful 2013 Track Pack GT at 2000 miles because of that shitty MT-82. swore never to get a manual Mustang again as long as that was the only manual transmission available
 

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Just came back from a nice drive, to break my car in, and man, once fully hot (which takes a while, even at 99deg outside), my MT-82 D4 is just about perfect. The notchiness is gone, leaving you with wonderfully precise shifts, with a hard-to-find mechanically pleasing feel to it. No need to shift any quicker than I do IMO, and it still shifts perfectly once at operating temperature. My first 2 Mustangs were from the 70s, and didn't come back until now, but couldn't be happier. it's one of the best (if not the best) manual trannies I've owned, and there have been a few. And I'd still rate the Hondas better than the Porsche and M3 V8. Those greedy class-action lawyers won't be making a penny out of me. Ha ha.
 

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Just came back from a nice drive, to break my car in, and man, once fully hot (which takes a while, even at 99deg outside), my MT-82 D4 is just about perfect. The notchiness is gone, leaving you with wonderfully precise shifts, with a hard-to-find mechanically pleasing feel to it. No need to shift any quicker than I do IMO, and it still shifts perfectly once at operating temperature. My first 2 Mustangs were from the 70s, and didn't come back until now, but couldn't be happier. it's one of the best (if not the best) manual trannies I've owned, and there have been a few. And I'd still rate the Hondas better than the Porsche and M3 V8. Those greedy class-action lawyers won't be making a penny out of me. Ha ha.
I completely agree. It's a joy to use when it's warmed up. Reminds me of an older Italian sports car in some ways, haha.
 

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I had a 2011 GT that had crap ton of issues with the MT82. From the start, I drove off the lot and realized the damn thing didn’t have a second gear. It would go in but fire back out like a bullet once the load was engaged. A week later I had a new transmission. From there on it was a rollercoaster with notchy shifting, lockouts etc.

I’ve driven/owned over 20 manual cars, three of them mustangs and MT82 was by far the worst thing in that 2011.

Fast forward to 2020, I bit the bullet on 2019 PP2. Given my ptsd from 2011, I cringe every time I shift. But I gotta be honest, this one is much, much better. I get a liiiitle notchy feel through a shift or two but nothing like in 2011. Given it only has 500 miles or so, hope it stays like this.
 

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A class action lawsuit does little for you. It mostly benefits the lawyers who reap gobs of cash litigating an issue on behalf of a class.

So the end result may be a settlement, but that will be spread about the class and would probably result in crumbs left on the table.

Anyone who thinks they have a legitimate claim against the Ford motor company will never get anywhere in a class action suit. If you are so compelled to belive that you have a case, hire your own lawyer and pursue your own action for your own benefit.

Once you commit to the class, you have forfeited your rights to pursue further legal action at a later point in time.

Simply said, anyone getting involved in a class action suit is foolish, unless your actions are to make a point and put any kind of reparation on the wayside.


A favorite phrase from a lawyer i know well is as follows......

Govern yourself accordingly.
 

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A class action lawsuit does little for you. It mostly benefits the lawyers who reap gobs of cash litigating an issue on behalf of a class.

So the end result may be a settlement, but that will be spread about the class and would probably result in crumbs left on the table.

Anyone who thinks they have a legitimate claim against the Ford motor company will never get anywhere in a class action suit. If you are so compelled to belive that you have a case, hire your own lawyer and pursue your own action for your own benefit.

Once you commit to the class, you have forfeited your rights to pursue further legal action at a later point in time.

Simply said, anyone getting involved in a class action suit is foolish, unless your actions are to make a point and put any kind of reparation on the wayside.


A favorite phrase from a lawyer i know well is as follows......

Govern yourself accordingly.
I don't care about getting paid, I just want to give Ford a huge F U for all the bullshit I've been through with my car. So foolish or not I'll hopefully be involved
 

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I didn't see this elsewhere on the site, but a class acton lawsuit was filed today in the 9th circuit district court for defective MT-82 transmissions. MY2011-2019 MT-82 and MT-82 D4 trannys.

Pretty much all of the complaints in it are exactly what I have read about here and experienced myself.

I'm not sure how to join it, but if you had to replace trans parts because of failed units, I'd definitely get on board.

https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2020/ford-mustang-transmission-problems-lawsuit.shtml

Now...If we could only get one going against the AC Evaporators, then we'd be all set...
How do we take action though?
 

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It sounds like it's basically the luck of the draw on the MT-82. The factory probably didn't have very controlled and good QA in manufacturing, and Ford probably didn't look over and manage Getrag well during manufacturing, so some were build well and others not so well. Maybe "Get rag" left in the transmission out of the transmission, lol.

My 2015 shifts nicely, and I have no qualms about how it performs.
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