garagelogic
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I've had Sync on 3 recent Ford purchases (2012 Focus SE, 2013 Boss 302 and 2016 GT350R) and I've experienced ZERO issues with the system. What are others finding?
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I had none. Paired flawlessly, voice-activation was problem free for me. Again, what kinds of issues are you speaking to? However, I do seem to live a charmed life!
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There is another catastrophe headed for the Camaro soon. As of 2 June, there were just over 19,000 new Camaro's on Dealer Lots.
First, Chevy is out of $$$ for advertising. Most of the $$$ went into the premature zl1/1LE/z28 programs. In which none of it will likely pay off.
Second, the 2017's will be coming soon... and there are 20,000 2016's.
Third, shift 3 is going bye bye... Production is being reduced by 1/3... the 2017's might be in severe trouble.
The 2018 Mustang and GT500 is coming...
First, Chevy is out of $$$ for advertising. Most of the $$$ went into the premature zl1/1LE/z28 programs. In which none of it will likely pay off.
Second, the 2017's will be coming soon... and there are 20,000 2016's.
Third, shift 3 is going bye bye... Production is being reduced by 1/3... the 2017's might be in severe trouble.
The 2018 Mustang and GT500 is coming...
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Sounds like Chevy better start deep discounting Camaro's soon.
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Camaro, CTS, and ATS come from the same assembly line, that setup right there save GM some $$$. Everything already R&D except the design of the Exterior, suspension and few other parts for the Camaro. Clearly GM wanted to make more profits which their loyal customers willing to paid for.
The Rental thing that GM put out there are BS. No one with the right mind wanted to cut their business volume down. I can see that GM can't make a camaro sale to rental companies due to high cost. Also the case might be rental companies don't see high volume of customers renting 2015 Camaro. So GM got to throw some smoke screen to avoid answered questions to GM stock holders. the is just my speculation.
ATS sold 4,444
CTS sold 1,334
Camaro Sold 5,827
Total AP 11,605
Hell GM beat Ford sales on Platform vs Platform, Camaro fan can take this as a compliment. lol !!!
The Rental thing that GM put out there are BS. No one with the right mind wanted to cut their business volume down. I can see that GM can't make a camaro sale to rental companies due to high cost. Also the case might be rental companies don't see high volume of customers renting 2015 Camaro. So GM got to throw some smoke screen to avoid answered questions to GM stock holders. the is just my speculation.
ATS sold 4,444
CTS sold 1,334
Camaro Sold 5,827
Total AP 11,605
Hell GM beat Ford sales on Platform vs Platform, Camaro fan can take this as a compliment. lol !!!
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Of course, it took 2 divisions and 3 cars for GM to accomplish that feat ...
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No links...
...and the ATS only sold 1640 cars in May 2016.
It's on the chopping block.
They sold less than 9000 Alpha cars last month :(
I am happy no one is buying the Camaro.
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Your numbers don't match the sheet posted on C6.
ATS sold 1,630
CTS sold 1,082
Camero sold 5,827
Total AP 8,539
Ford wins.
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As far as the "We don't do Rentals or Fleet".
A better way of saying that is...
We lost our contracts to sell wholesale product to commercial rental companies. It looks like a smart business move, although, I'm not sure how less sales is good...
Next they boast higher profit per sale, yet most Camaro fans dismiss that those profits are made up on THEIR retail purchase. In other words, THEY make up for the lost profit ;)
GM isn't selling Fleet/Rental because they no longer have a contract to do so :lol:
So, they increased the MSRP on the faithfuls Camaro's.
The ATS sold 1640 cars, the Camaro sold 5800...
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yea,thats Garbage Motors for you.:lol:
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Not to mention that this is basically irrelevant outside of GM's cost structure as the other two aren't playing in the same or even similar segments.
minjitta
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my mistake numbers are global sales for ATS and CTS, camaro are USA sale only
here the caddy sales link,
http://caddyinfo.com/wordpress/category/monthly-sales-reports/
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GM is offering $1500 cash so the discounts have started. We'll know soon if it's the crazy asking price or the stale styling that's hurting sales.
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