New 2020 GT350 HEP engine failure

[honeybadger]

Hand built engines guys. Of course they send you a new one and take the old one back. The guys at the factory are the ones building the engines - not techs.

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[Caballus]

Given the number that have blown, Ford knows the cause(s), whether it's owner neglect or a failure on Ford's part (or a supplier). If it's owner neglect, it would seem that Ford would have reemphasized break-in, oil monitoring and warm up requirements, rather than continually eating the cost of engines. As has been said, the full story won't be known for several more years.

 

[mroad]

Wouldn’t ne the least bit surprised if there one and the same.

InTheHighDesert, may be it's hard to believe that the 2020 GT350's are having these major issues. I don't blame you. But I wouldn't rush to accuse others of making things up. I can assure you and others on this forum that this happened to me, I am not impersonating any other accounts, and I do believe others who are complaining here and telling their stories because it's similar to mine.

The next person whose GT350 engine blows up, they will Google about it and read this forum. We can either encourage them to speak out, or intimidate them and suppress their stories. The only winner in this case would be Ford, not bothering to fix these fundamental problems with no consequences on its quality reputation, and the only losers would be us, the consumers.

 

[Dominant1]

I’ve Been hearing these stories to often, at-least its covered completely.. quite an inconvenience i’m sure, but hopefully the new engine runs perfect. Good luck man, and hang in there.

 

[K4fxd]

Ford knows the cause(s),

If Ford knew the cause they would have fixed it.

My personal speculation is the flat plane crank is sending some kind of harmonic that causes the valve train failures.

This would explain the Predator returning to a cross plane.

 

[Inthehighdesert]

I have no doubt there are mechanical failures. Do I think the sky is falling, I don’t. I would say Ford sending out replacement engines quickly is them addressing the issue for the current circumstance. I’m sure they know exactly where and what run of parts are the cause. Ford doesn’t have a choice other then to replace the culprit engine’s after the failure. The only way they would discover an issue is to have the issue’s happen. As for it happening to you. I have no idea if your being truthful or not, I don’t know you. I have a 20 350, and just bought a 20R. If either break, they are warranted and will be fixed. If they break out of warranty I’ll fix it. I bought the R because I’m getting ready to boost my 350. That‘s where my concern level is at the moment. Its unfortunate that some are having issue’s. It‘s hardly unique to Ford or any other manufacturer. The difference for me is if one of the cars or piece’s of equipment I have break under warranty I take it in for service. I don’t have a desire to share every instance with every one else.

InTheHighDesert, may be it's hard to believe that the 2020 GT350's are having these major issues. I don't blame you. But I wouldn't rush to accuse others of making things up. I can assure you and others on this forum that this happened to me, I am not impersonating any other accounts, and I do believe others who are complaining here and telling their stories because it's similar to mine.

The next person whose GT350 engine blows up, they will Google about it and read this forum. We can either encourage them to speak out, or intimidate them and suppress their stories. The only winner in this case would be Ford, not bothering to fix these fundamental problems with no consequences on its quality reputation, and the only losers would be us, the consumers.

 

[Inthehighdesert]

If that was remotely the case, where do the remanufactured parts come from? It’s even more ridiculous to assert something like this when your talking about core assemblies that are worth thousands and in some cases tens of thousands of dollars. Since you worked at dealerships you should know that in most cases the dealer is charged for the core until it is returned to the manufacturer. That goes for warranty work as well.

I worked at dealerships before. The only time we sent anything back to the factory was if they didn't know the cause of the failure and wanted engineering to figure it out.

Most times the failed parts got junked. This included engines and transmissions.

There is only one reason to spend the money for shipping it back. That is so engineering can look for a cause.

When I asked about all voodoos. I ment all years. It seems this engine has had an unusual amount of failures compared to the Coyote.

 

[Caballus]

If Ford knew the cause they would have fixed it.

Unless it's cheaper to simply replace engines. They knew the cause of exploding pintos. Business is business.

 

[stanglife]

If Ford knew the cause they would have fixed it.

My personal speculation is the flat plane crank is sending some kind of harmonic that causes the valve train failures.

This would explain the Predator returning to a cross plane.

oh man, you figured it out! Guess that engineering degree paid off!

 

[Rev Happy]

My personal speculation is the flat plane crank is sending some kind of harmonic that causes the valve train failures.

If that was the case then you would be seeing this issue in the earlier model years, and you're not. I honestly think it's a part's supplier issue, which is unfortunate to happen to the last year of the run.

 

[K4fxd]

I was under the impression all the years of voodoo suffered this problem. If it is just the 20's it probably is supplier issue.

 

[stanglife]

The truth is somewhere but certainly most of the things brought up in this thread are wild ass guesses and nothing more. From quantity of failures to the actual cause - wild ass guesses lol.

 

[DrumReaper]

Wow... I missed a lot of the action. Sheesh.
OP, I certainly hope all gets taken care of, and drive your car man! These cars like to be revved and driven.
As for break-in adjustments from Ford?... fugettaboutit! They have solid instructions. Not every one will adhere to them no matter how much you preach to them.
I tell people all the time that if they keep living the lifestyle they live they’ll have a heart attack. They tell me, nah... my grandpa lived to be a 103. 2 years later they return saying doc, you were right.
people will do what they will do, whether it’s cars or their own health. Just like genetics, cars can have failures in the intricate makeup of their whole parts. I’d be willing to believe this is a parts supplier failure. But regardless, Ford is taking care of the customer which is the right thing to do.

 

[Onlyone]

I’m going to say that if you keep your car until it’s a classic, I would say it’s going to be worth more in the long run. It will be much more of a rare find, especially if you keep all your receipts.

 

[K4fxd]

Cars that are worth a shit ton of money are cars no one wants when built.. Plymouth super birds. Dodge Daytona's. Ford Torino Talladega They couldn't give them away, now they are worth fortunes.


GT350 and R

Sure these are limited editions and will always outperform a regular GT but buying for an investment is stupid, IMO.

Especially due to the numbers of units made. The Superbirds were made in numbers to conform to a mandate for eligibility to race in a major racing class. 500 units if I remember correctly, and no one at the time wanted them. Many dealers took off the front fenders and replaced them with road runner's and the corresponding grill, and removed the wing. Just to get them off the lot.

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