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Since the MAP intercooler has the same cooling diameter as many others I think that not having to remove the front bumper is a solid benefit even though it is not a "must have feature".
I think the important thing people need to look at is their goals. It doesn't matter how big the core is, it matters what power level the core is rated for and how much power the user ultimately wants to make. Otherwise you may find yourself buying a new intercooler down the road.

I've seen ratings from 500-1000 hp for the cores that companies have released so far. I prefer to buy once, the core in my IC is rated at 750 hp constant use, although peak supported power is higher.
 

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I know its not difficult but on all the cars I have worked on (Mine and Friends) there was a 30-40% shot of it not being aligned perfectly. Now I am speaking about german cars, specifically the GTI which I work on frequently and VW uses plastic tabs that tend to bend when putting the bumper back on.

Since I have not removed the bumper from a FORD this may be a different experience but I can only speak from my recent jobs.

Since the MAP intercooler has the same cooling diameter as many others I think that not having to remove the front bumper is a solid benefit even though it is not a "must have feature".
Just took my bumper off this week, there is no realignment issues as it's all clips that pop back into place. I installed the Levels FMIC and it does a night and day difference from charge temps being much lower to throttle response being much better as well as consistent power.

Plus it looks sexy

 

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Just took my bumper off this week, there is no realignment issues as it's all clips that pop back into place. I installed the Levels FMIC and it does a night and day difference from charge temps being much lower to throttle response being much better as well as consistent power.

Plus it looks sexy

To remove the lower grill did you have to cut the front bumper by the fog lights or is it just how the pic was taken? Looks good!
 

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Biggest by dimensions maybe, but most efficient on the market based on what?
Based on information stated by other manufacturers from their test vehicles vs data collected from our test vehicles when tested at similar atmospheric conditions. Its no coincidence that the largest core is also the most efficient - after all - it should be or we have done a terrible job of building and designing it! MMR in fact is so confident in its intercooler efficiency that we will give your money back if you find a more efficient Mustang Ecoboost intercooler :clap2:

 
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Based on information stated by other manufacturers from their test vehicles vs data collected from our test vehicles when tested at similar atmospheric conditions. Its no coincidence that the largest core is also the most efficient - after all - it should be or we have done a terrible job of building and designing it! MMR in fact is so confident in its intercooler efficiency that we will give your money back if you find a more efficient Mustang Ecoboost intercooler :clap2:
wow that's bold!
I like your style MMR
giddy up!
 

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Hey everybody loves a money back guarantee and you do have a very competitive price :)

But with that size isn't blocking the airflow to the radiator a concern? Most of the surface area of that big IC is blocked by the bumper anyway also so it seems like overkill/a lot of added weight over the stock IC
 

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Hey everybody loves a money back guarantee and you do have a very competitive price :)

But with that size isn't blocking the airflow to the radiator a concern? Most of the surface area of that big IC is blocked by the bumper anyway also so it seems like overkill/a lot of added weight over the stock IC
The bumper also blocks the radiator - but likewise is no reason for concern, a true heat exchanger will shed heat regardless of its location and is influenced primarily by the ambient air that surrounds it. Much like the heat sinks found on amplifiers and other electrical equipment that do not have any airflow or fans.
 

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Based on information stated by other manufacturers from their test vehicles vs data collected from our test vehicles when tested at similar atmospheric conditions. Its no coincidence that the largest core is also the most efficient - after all - it should be or we have done a terrible job of building and designing it! MMR in fact is so confident in its intercooler efficiency that we will give your money back if you find a more efficient Mustang Ecoboost intercooler :clap2:
I'm sold (in due time)!
 

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Here are some in progress pics of the upcoming AMBIENT THERMAL MANAGEMENT Stepped Core Intercooler, these pics are just after the initial polish the end product will have a polished logo and a media blast finish. Our intercoolers are engineered specifically for each vehicle. We design our intercoolers to maximize temperature drop as well as pressure drop. We accomplish these parameters by flaring the inlets and outlets, the use of rounded header and ambient bars as well as endtank shape. Historically on every vehicle we have produced for, our intercoolers have the best AIT control as well as improved pressure drop over stock. We have several more steps in the manufacturing process and then it's testing time... ITS COMING!

This pic shows the cast endtanks, factory exact geometry and the cast in and machined sensor bung and flared (at both the entry as well as at the end tank)inlets and outlets.



This pic shows the large ambient face and rounded header bars.
 
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I was on the fence between Levels FMIC/MAP FMIC and did some looking at the two sizes:

Levels: 20x11x3.5=770 for surface area
MAP: 26x6x5=780 for surface area

Looks like the are very close, just a different way of doing it.

Went with MAP at the end but I can't see anyone going wrong with either company.
Maybe a stupid question but I saw the link to the Mishimoto pre sale thread in the classifieds for their FMIC and it gives two measurements, one for the core and one with the end tanks so what is the industry standard when providing measurements? Just the core or with the end tanks?

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?p=556888#post556888
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