If it makes you feel any better I haven’t found a grease gun with a long enough attachment to actually grease the mount zerks on the swaybar mounts that I have. Its a horribly inconvenient place to grease on this chassis. Even if the line is long enough its hard to get your hand in there.Just to add to this thread.
Added BMR front and rear bars with there end links and it made a noticeable difference in keeping the car flat.
The rear bar came with clamps that there instructions say to place on the inside of the bar but i wasnt able to due to the frame mounts for the rear bar itself so they are on the outside.
I was disappointed to see clamps instead of a welded ring on the rear bar as with the front but it what it is. No grease fittings on the front bar mounts either but they are in the rear and very close to my exhaust.
Front Spring lbs/inch | Rear Spring lbs/inch | Front Ride Frequency | Rear Ride Frequency | Average Ride Frequency | Rear/Front RF Ratio | ||
GT non-PP | 160 | 668 | 1.32 | 1.40 | 1.36 | 6.28% | |
GT PP1 | 165 | 728 | 1.34 | 1.46 | 1.40 | 9.25% | |
GT PP2 | 198 | 822 | 1.47 | 1.55 | 1.51 | 5.98% | |
GT Mach1 | Standard | 194 | 657 | 1.45 | 1.39 | 1.42 | -4.28% |
GT Mach1 | With Handling Package | 211 | 742 | 1.51 | 1.48 | 1.50 | -2.46% |
GT350 (2016-18) | 3760 lbs. | 194 | 914 | 1.43 | 1.63 | 1.53 | 13.96% |
GT350 (2019+) | 3760 lbs. | 211 | 857 | 1.49 | 1.58 | 1.53 | 5.81% |
GT350R | 3650 lbs. | 240 | 914 | 1.60 | 1.64 | 1.62 | 2.45% |
GT500 | 4225 lbs. | 251 | 885 | 1.50 | 1.55 | 1.52 | 3.76% |
GT500 CFTP | 4182 lbs. | 268 | 942 | 1.55 | 1.61 | 1.58 | 3.60% |
Interesting but i guess not surprising. I do like the feel of the car with bars on much more though. Front is set to middle and back is full soft for now.Too much inconsistency on the S550 subframe. The locking collars are far superior to welded on washers with massive spacing.
The front is crowded, especially with a P1X stage 2 crank pulley added but it all fits. I greased them thoroughly so i imagine it should be good for awhile. Greasing the end link fittings on the car wasnt fun either.If it makes you feel any better I haven’t found a grease gun with a long enough attachment to actually grease the mount zerks on the swaybar mounts that I have. Its a horribly inconvenient place to grease on this chassis. Even if the line is long enough its hard to get your hand in there.
The clamps will be fine on the outside, and ya, clamps are an awkward solution - it should be an integral part IMHO.
If you've race karts much, you get used to trusting split collars.Too much inconsistency on the S550 subframe. The locking collars are far superior to welded on washers with massive spacing.
The stock bars have collars so…?Too much inconsistency on the S550 subframe. The locking collars are far superior to welded on washers with massive spacing.
Yeah, that's definitely what Ford thinks is right for the market. There's nothing particularly magic about that number tho.Conclusion: The "sweet spot" for best handling, on a non-track model, is 1.50 to 1.53.
In my experience, you're being overly generous.@TeeLew "The sheer number of options these engineers come up with is pretty silly. Look at those front springs."
@NightmareMoon "For the OEM, I'm sure they have some internal targets for ride frequency or body roll or something."
Conclusion: The "sweet spot" for best handling, on a non-track model, is 1.50 to 1.53. Each of these models is then further tuned with different sway bars.
Interesting to note that the updated sheet has 230 for the GT350R rate. Previously, the number was 157, per https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/threads/sway-bars.119344/post-2503192.from Brian's spreadsheet. He might have updates but there isn't another public source that I know of.
Swaybar Front Rate Rear Rate Front Wheel Rate Rear Wheel Rate GT PP 295 123 290 75 GT350 350 130 344 79 GT350R 350 230 344 140 BMR soft 377 200 371 122 BMR med 439 289 432 176 BMR stiff 501 378 493 230 Eibach soft 372 198 366 120 Eibach med 475 234 467 142 Eibach stiff 515 285 507 173 Steeda soft 280 0 170 Steeda med soft 350 0 213 Steeda med stiff N/A N/A Steeda stiff 425 0 259 Pedders soft 455 170 448 103 Pedders med 492 197 484 120 Pedders stiff 530 224 522 136
yeah it's crazy beefy. Thanks for the info, I updated my spreadsheet.I run Steeda Race Bar on the Middle setting and OEM PP1 rear bar.
Steeda rates for the 1"-3/8 bar are as fallow: