RLCA Help: Spherical Bearing vs. Poly Bushing

[fatbillybob]

how was the actual bushing removal and install? Tricks you learned?

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[SAY WHAT]

OK, so I've got all the corners back on my car with the polyurethane bushings. I haven't gotten it on the ground, yet, so no driving. While I was putting it back together, I made a video about the how the suspension moves with the bushings in. It's pretty smooth. You can feel the drag of the bushing grease, but their isn't any outrageous bind or stiction. It's just feels like you're moving it through syrup.

Anyway, here's the vid.

Great video showing how it works. Would you happen to have a video with the bearings in place? I don't recall if you had bearings before.

 

[Norm Peterson]

OK, so I've got all the corners back on my car with the polyurethane bushings. I haven't gotten it on the ground, yet, so no driving. While I was putting it back together, I made a video about the how the suspension moves with the bushings in. It's pretty smooth. You can feel the drag of the bushing grease, but their isn't any outrageous bind or stiction. It's just feels like you're moving it through syrup.

Anyway, here's the vid.

What's with the Race Keeper pop-up that covers what's going on, starting at about 1:08?

I am hearing a bit of creaking.


Norm

 

[TeeLew]

Great video showing how it works. Would you happen to have a video with the bearings in place? I don't recall if you had bearings before.

It was completely stock, previously.

 

[fatbillybob]

I am hearing a bit of creaking.


Norm

Off axis stichion?

 

[TeeLew]

What's with the Race Keeper pop-up that covers what's going on, starting at about 1:08?

I am hearing a bit of creaking.


Norm

Mine doesn't have a pop-up, I can't help you there.

As far as the noise, I think that's my jack, but I honestly can't say 100%. It might be the suspension. I think I'll know more on the road.

 

[TeeLew]

how was the actual bushing removal and install? Tricks you learned?

I don't have anything close to the tools to do the bushing job. Instead of pulling my hair out, I had a shop do the bushing R&R.

Putting it back together isn't anything crazy, but getting everything lined up takes a while. The only real assembly mod I did was to file down a couple places on the RLCA casting so I could put the shocks in last. I think the lower mount on the Magnaride shocks are bigger than the normal ones and they just slightly foul the arm when putting the damper in with the suspension assembled. Smoothing things up a few mm here & there lets you pop them in last.

 

[TeeLew]

Off axis stichion?

I'm sure there's a certain amount of this that exists, there has to be. Having said that, when you're moving the suspension yourself, it's about impossible to tell the difference between any bushing stick & just the weight of the assembly. I've definitely felt spherical suspensions which were 'tighter' (in a bad way). I expect everything to kind of settle in & find it's happy spot after driving for an hour or so.

Also, I have to assume that, once loaded into a corner, these bushings will have more stiction than while on stands in my driveway. The biggest difference you notice between this & stock is the lack of bushing 'spring' resistance, as opposed to friction/stiction.

 

[TeeLew]

The only stock bushing I have left in my suspension is in the rear upright where the toe-link connects. I've never seen another option for that point. Is there one?

 

[Brian@BMVK]

The only stock bushing I have left in my suspension is in the rear upright where the toe-link connects. I've never seen another option for that point. Is there one?

Ford Performance toe knuckle bearings.

 

[Brian@BMVK]

What's with the Race Keeper pop-up that covers what's going on, starting at about 1:08?

I am hearing a bit of creaking.


Norm

That's the jack.

 

[TeeLew]

Ford Performance toe knuckle bearings.

I'm familiar with a camel toe and a moose knuckle, but I'm going to have to figure out what a toe knuckle is. It sounds kinda different.

 

[Brian@BMVK]

I'm familiar with a camel toe and a moose knuckle, but I'm going to have to figure out what a toe knuckle is. It sounds kinda different.

Knuckle toe bearings, if you prefer:
https://www.cjponyparts.com/ford-pe...oe-link-bearing-assembly-2015-2020/p/M5A460M/

They're also the same bearing that you could press out of the OEM toe link.

 

[fatbillybob]

Ford Performance toe knuckle bearings.

Isn’t that in pp1 already?

 

[Burkey]

Isn’t that in pp1 already?

Yes, but only on one end of the toe link. This bearing is actually pressed into the knuckle itself, rather than the toe link.

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