Oil change

[rick81721]

Picked up one today at Autozone. They had 2 on the shelf

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[Phoenix]

2 qts low isn't going to hurt it unless you have been hammering it really hard. My 500 HP 1966 427 Corvette runs only 6 quarts and the engine was built over 30 years ago. My 67 440 GTX only runs 5 qts.

a motor from 50 years ago is vastly different to a motor built in the last 3-5 years. 2 quarts low and i worry about not having enough through the cooler and in the sump.

 

[tedj101]

So, i drive down there and get it changed ( and purchased another filter for $33) and everything is going smooth until i stop at the gas station....i look at the paperwork and i see there was 8 quarts put in. How does a Ford tech not know it takes 10 quarts??? I checked it and it was definitely low. Is 2 quarts low going to hurt anything? Also, i noticed a little oil on my driveway but im hoping its just excess oil from when he took the filter off? I may just take my chance with possible warranty issues and start doing it myself.

If he only put 8 qts in, he was probably using the spec for the Coyote. Does the bill expressly state 5-50? He may have used the wrong oil too. In addition, if I were you, I would retorque the oil filter. You can get to it easily through the LF wheel well. Just back it off a half turn and then torque it to 18 ft/lbs. If he was thinking Coyote, he probably didn't think to torque the filter to GT350 Spec. Just a thought or two.

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[key01]

Does your receipt say 8 quarts? I had mine changed at my dealer also on Saturday. No issue with the filter and my receipt says 10 quarts. I also I checked the level at home. Oil in the belly pan is unfortunately a possibility with this car.
Edit- I just reread your post and the ticket saying 8 Qts. My bad

 

[Tank]

If he only put 8 qts in, he was probably using the spec for the Coyote. Does the bill expressly state 5-50? He may have used the wrong oil too. In addition, if I were you, I would retorque the oil filter. You can get to it easily through the LF wheel well. Just back it off a half turn and then torque it to 18 ft/lbs. If he was thinking Coyote, he probably didn't think to torque the filter to GT350 Spec. Just a thought or two.

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Good points except he’s got the cartridge style filter- don’t know about how they’re torqued...

 

[DCShelby]

I always tell the service writer it takes 10 quarts, and I don't leave the lot till I look at the invoice and see that's what they put in. First time, they used 9, every timer after its gotten 10. I think they make the mistake of adding it in (about 8 or 9), checking the level....before starting it and letting it flow in the motor. If you add 8 or 9, and don't start it....it may show full. My KTM and Ducati bikes with cartridge oil filters are like that. You have to add most of it in, then start the motor to get it circulated and warmed up, stop the engine....then top it off.

 

[EHam]

If he only put 8 qts in, he was probably using the spec for the Coyote. Does the bill expressly state 5-50? He may have used the wrong oil too. In addition, if I were you, I would retorque the oil filter. You can get to it easily through the LF wheel well. Just back it off a half turn and then torque it to 18 ft/lbs. If he was thinking Coyote, he probably didn't think to torque the filter to GT350 Spec. Just a thought or two.

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The receipt does say 5w50 QCT.

 

[EHam]

Whats sad is they have all kinds of nice toys in their showroom (Ford GT, new 350, 350r, 2 350 track cars, etc).

 

[Deathvalleysc]

I had my oil changed on my 2016 gt350 at my local dealership. I usually change it myself. I figured I would give them a shot because it was actually cheaper than me buying everything online because I can’t find motorcraft 5w50 and the filter at any of my local stores. They changed it about 3 weeks ago. I went to warm it up this morning to drive it to work and noticed oil on my garage floor. So I ended up pulling it back in the garage and driving my truck to work. I raised it up when I got home from work to look and see what was wrong expecting the worse. Only to find my filter was super loose. I really haven’t driven it much since the oil change because I went to the beach. I lost about a qt but it could’ve been a lot worse. I haven’t had nothing but issues with my local dealership.

 

[mmakam2]

Avoid the dealership like the plague. Ford dealerships do not hire the caliber of technicians that should be working on these cars. After all they work most of their days on normal consumer level vehicles. I have not had one visit to either of the dealerships in Houston without them screwing something up. Whether it's leaving out interior clips, leaving things loose, putting scratches in the paint or all of the above.

Either do your own work or find a mechanic you can trust.

 

[GrabberBlue]

There is a definite reason Ford switched to 2087. Better filter media and steel core. I'm not going to use the "old-style" AMSOIL filter until they start providing a replacement to 2087.

 

[galaxy]

I'm not going to use the "old-style" AMSOIL filter until they start providing a replacement to 2087.

Not sure I get the “why” on that one. The Amsoil filter would already have a superior filter media (and still superior to the updated version), and the inner structure was already more robust than the 2062 anyways. I’d argue the 2087 is playing catch-up. Since the 2087 is only an update to the 2062 and the EA15K43 is a new filter just developed a few months ago, I doubt there will be a change, if there was anything to change.

 

[GrabberBlue]

Not sure I get the “why” on that one. The Amsoil filter would already have a superior filter media (and still superior to the updated version), and the inner structure was already more robust than the 2062 anyways. I’d argue the 2087 is playing catch-up. Since the 2087 is only an update to the 2062 and the EA15K43 is a new filter just developed a few months ago, I doubt there will be a change, if there was anything to change.

I agree on the filter media. However, Ford did switch to synthetic filter media from paper so it is decently robust now. The AMSOIL filter still has the old 2062-esq core design. 2019+ Voodoos call for a 2087. I'm going to stick with a 2087 until AMSOIL offers a replacement.

 

[galaxy]

By core design, you're referring to the change from the plastic inner structure to the metal, almost mesh like looking inner structure?

I’ve heard speculation (doubt we’ll ever really know for sure) that the inner support was update to reduce the likelihood of collapsing inward. If that’s true, the Amsoil filter won’t have that issue anyways and they’ll not see a reason to update anything.

 

[JAJ]

I don't know - I'm with GrabberBlue on this one. Think about it - Ford replaces a bunch of engines for failures that we won't understand - some say "oil pump gears", some say "oil pan pump seal", others say "spun bearings". In any case, they're all oil supply related and nobody actually knows what's causing them. Then Ford comes out with a new, metal reinforced, oil filter element for cars that take the cartridge filter. It's pretty easy to connect the dots.

There's no way I'd run any aftermarket filter on any Voodoo engine. Magnuson Moss can't protect you if the filter core collapses and it turns out that the failed filter is the reason your engine needs replacing.

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