New 6.8 v8

[J17GT]

Agreed that IF the 6.8 makes it into a Mustang, it will be some special edition that the majority of us will not be able to afford. Have you seen how expensive the trucks are getting? The 2021 Limited F150 starts at just over $70k!!! That is bananas.

Also, the Essex engine plant is entirely dedicated to making the coyote and I doubt Ford with close that or repurpose/retool it anytime soon.

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[Troutwrangler]

So still no more proof than what Dias said.

To be fair, I could see Ford using a paid for architecture that's cheaper to build to replace the somewhat complex 5.0. Even if it doesn't end up making that much more power.

For sure.... Like a de-stroked Godzilla.

 

[Elp_jc]

If it happens, it'd obviously be a pushrod, which wouldn't be attractive to me at all, even if it makes more power than the Coyote. But to each his own. Ford is the only domestic automaker making a more expensive DOHC V8. And the only good news is if it's made of aluminum (like GM LS/LT engines), it should weight the same or less than a Coyote. And of course cost less, which is the main motivation to make it in the first place.

The other option is that Ford will use that engine in the F-150 (which makes a lot more sense than a DOHC one), and the Coyote in the Mustang, at least in the mean time. I don't see Ford continuing production of the Coyote for too long, especially with a democratic administration, but we'll see.

 

[Balr14]

This article says it will be in the Mustang and it makes a lot sense: https://www.thedrive.com/news/37374...od-v8-coming-to-2022-ford-mustang-f150-report

The Coyote is a nice engine but it's really big. An aluminum 6.8 would be much smaller and lighter.

 

[Adamone92]

 

[airjonny]

I’d rather them just keep perfecting the coyote. The rev happy nature of the V8 gives it way more theatre than the competition.

 

[whatdoyoufeedit?]

Many seem to forget that a modern pushrod is typically physically smaller than any OHC-based engine (cubes doesn't necessarily mean externally larger) therefore packages easier. If Ford is implementing hybridization a de-stroked/ all alloy 7.3L (6.8L) would physically be smaller, lighter, package better, address hood clearance/ oil pan clearance issue that the 7.3L truck unit has for car applications and leave plenty of room for the hybrid equipment. This could easily become the upscale hybrid V8, 5.0 Coyote the intermediate non-hybrid V8, and leave the 2.3L as base like normal.

The Coyote is a wide engine and I can see taking an educated guess that this 6.8L could be the engine that utilizes the hybrid tech for easier packaging. Also with trucks being the bread and butter of Ford it is cheaper to produce this alongside the truck engines on the assembly line versus a screamer OHC style engine specific only to low volume sports cars. This would easily address the "how is Ford implementing a 6.8L engine in the time of downsizing?" questions. It technically is "downsizing" or concatenating by having stronger economies of scale by sharing more tooling with the truck stuff and appeasing CAFE standards utilizing hybridization. This is just a hypothesis.

 

[revinto7]

all i know is if they put a 6.8L in a mustang GT it better spin to 7500-8000rpm or its Junk !!!i had a 16 A8 camaro SS that ran good but it hit the wall @ 6100 rpm and my hellcat allthough fast it too only pulls to 6k .My 18 A10 PP Mustang is what I ditched the camaro for and let me say for the small torque difference VS the high rpm HP and 10 speed are just Awsome and what make this car so much fun and its best characteristic i hope they dont loose that ..

 

[Nickel]

Everyone is moving towards an electric/hybrid platform. No way this gets mass produced for what, 500-520HP max? Cost/benefit doesn't seem to be there.

Not going to happen since that's the setup in the Ford GT.

 

[Hi-PO Stang]

I could see the 6.8 liter V8 spin to 7200 RPM. That would be good enough.

 

[ice445]

Not going to happen since that's the setup in the Ford GT.

Supercar tech always trickles down eventually.

 

[shogun32]

all i know is if they put a 6.8L in a mustang GT it better spin to 7500-8000rpm or its Junk !

You actually think Ford who can't get simple stuff right is going to pull off an engine the requires paying attention and ENFORCING quality standards from the suppliers? ROTFL!

You can have torque or you can have high'ish revving HP. Pick one.

Supercar tech always trickles down eventually.

The tech might, in the abstract. What doesn't trickle down is the supplier and quality controls. Ford is littered with FAIL on those counts.

 

[Adamone92]

You actually think Ford who can't get simple stuff right is going to pull off an engine the requires paying attention and ENFORCING quality standards from the suppliers? ROTFL!

You can have torque or you can have high'ish revving HP. Pick one.


The tech might, in the abstract. What doesn't trickle down is the supplier and quality controls. Ford is littered with FAIL on those counts.

judging from current situation

they will probably only do enough to keep up or be a little better than the challenger and camaro
camaro apparently has no plans to be made starting 2023..so that just leaves the challenger
mustang already seemingly going to be challenger sized..with maybe a 6.8 v8
so maybe a war between 2 torquey, big muscle cars? i dont see it being high revving either, sadly.

 

[GrabberBlue5.0]

You actually think Ford who can't get simple stuff right is going to pull off an engine the requires paying attention and ENFORCING quality standards from the suppliers? ROTFL!

Ford is littered with FAIL on those counts.

salty

 

[DrumReaper]

I could see the 6.8 liter V8 spin to 7200 RPM. That would be good enough.

Didn’t the 427 SOHC Ford developed in the 60’s make power all the way to 7k rpm? And that was 616-carbureted hp @ 7k rpm. I don’t see why a modern day can’t do the same or better.

The question is weight and costs, and how to balance the two.

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