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^^^ That's exactly why I do 135 ft lbs lol. Did it on my ecoboost with aftermarket wheels on 1" spacers, and now on my GT which has been to the track a couple times as well with no loosening. Seemed like a good in between since I also saw a bunch of conflicting stuff online.
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Maybe it won't, maybe it will, it's under torqued @ 100 per Ford for the S550. Do you think they pulled that number out of their behinds? One lug under-torqued, or even 2 or 4 would be ok perhaps, uneven torque is not ideal either.
They are using the standard maximum torque for that size of stud on both model cars (S550/650 use the same, larger stud than the S197)

Why aren't wheels falling off the previous model cars left and right if they are only tightened to 100 lb/ft?
 

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I torque to 135 ft/lbs (uh oh this thread's going to get crazy now).
I'll bite. Because you're doing it wrong. Ford doesn't set the 150lb/ft spec, that is determined by the diameter of our wheel studs.

150ft/lb is the only correct number for the stock studs. Anything else is wrong.
 

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I don't understand why people are so dead set against torquing lug nuts to what Ford specifies. It's not like it's difficult to just do what the manufacturer says it needs. Every time I see someone argue that a lesser torque is ok I wonder if they would look at head bolts and see 120 ft lbs specified and say "hell, 80 is fine"?
 

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Some wheel manufacturers will suggest other torque values for their wheels as well

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I don't understand why people are so dead set against torquing lug nuts to what Ford specifies. It's not like it's difficult to just do what the manufacturer says it needs.
A lot of people change parts on their cars or do other things Ford doesn't specify.
 

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A lot of people change parts on their cars or do other things Ford doesn't specify.
Yes, but Ford does specifically say that you should. Not, "if you used 100ft# on your S197 it's OK on your S550". Go ahead and undertorque your heads next time they are off, they'll hold, for a while. I know, different scenario but still a recommended torque value as well as sequence pattern.
You will do what you think, that's OK, I will use what the manufacturer sez.
 

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When I asked It was recommended to me to torque my Velgen wheels to 110 Ft.lbs I haven't received them yet and I'm on the fence on what I should actually torque them to. I will also be using Gorilla lugs
I torqued my Vegen on my 22 GT to 150 just like Ford says. No issues at all.

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Just to stir the pot I heard back from Gorilla and with using there lug nuts Pn# k5ts-14150bgr ( tuner style) they recommend up to 130 ft.lbs when using Pn# 41148HT they recommend 130-140 ft.lbs
 

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Just to stir the pot I heard back from Gorilla and with using there lug nuts Pn# k5ts-14150bgr ( tuner style) they recommend up to 130 ft.lbs when using Pn# 41148HT they recommend 130-140 ft.lbs
That seems odd. McGard just says to torque to OEM torque specs, which makes the most sense to me.
 

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So……I’ve got my Gorilla lug nuts ordered (don’t have them yet). I also ordered a 13/16 lug socket which came today. I put the 13/16 socket on every OEM lug nut on the car and it fit all but one. I got the 21 mm socket that came with my scissor jack and it fits the lug good. Can I expect trouble out of this lug when I attempt to remove it with the 21 mm socket or is there a possibility it will come off without issues? Should I try to remove it by hand or use my mid-torque impact?
 
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Tighten the other 4 a little bit. Don't go crazy, use a torque wrench, take them to no more than 155/160ft-lbs. Then loosen the swollen one, removing it completely.
The others can then be removed.

The idea is that the other 4 being a bit tighter, will releave a bit of pressure from the problemed one.

And yes, I am speaking from successful experience.
 

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So……I’ve got my Gorilla lug nuts ordered (don’t have them yet). I also ordered a 13/16 lug socket which came today. I put the 13/16 socket on every OEM lug nut on the car and it fit all but one. I got the 21 mm socket that came with my scissor jack and it fits the lug good. Can I expect trouble out of this lug when I attempt to remove it with the 21 mm socket or is there a possibility it will come off without issues? Should I try to remove it by hand or use my mid-torque impact?
I use a 21 mm on mine, and a few are a bit tight (the socket on the lug itself), even with the Gorilla lugs... I just run them off, and thread back on a thread or two so I can wiggle the socket off good... I know the impact does a number on lugs, but I am lazy :) and just deal with it :) My daily driver Mazda lugs are really getting long in the tooth after 110k miles, I need new ones for it, the chrome coating is starting to peel and look bad...
 
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I use a 21 mm on mine, and a few are a bit tight (the socket on the lug itself), even with the Gorilla lugs... I just run them off, and thread back on a thread or two so I can wiggle the socket off good... I know the impact does a number on lugs, but I am lazy :) and just deal with it :) My daily driver Mazda lugs are really getting long in the tooth after 110k miles, I need new ones for it, the chrome coating is starting to peel and look bad...
The 21 mm fits my swollen lug like the 13/16 fits the other 19 - no slop or wiggle. Hopefully it comes off without issue. Will try @Bitten in '69’s recommendation.
 

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I'm surprise more people don't use a motorsport-derived open back, single piece lug nut. I run a squared 305 setup on my S550, so I needed extended lug nuts and a small 5mm spacer. Open backs won't swell and work on every lug nut combo. You just need a deep socket on hand.
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