Liquid Moly Ceratec

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    Please provide the data (from Ford engineering) that supports your statement that 5W-20 is only to meet CAFE standards.

    The manufacturer of diesel engines and construction equipment where I worked for many years also did not make their own: oil; filters; batteries; and many other items *but they did provide their own specifications to the suppliers who made them*. Motorcraft oil may be made by numerous suppliers but it is to Ford specifications.
     
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    The industry trend to lower viscosity oil is driven by cafe fuel economy requirements.
     
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    This is true. The move to synthetic (or synthetic blend) factory fills in many makes has enabled sufficient protection in difficult OEM durability cycles at lower oil weights. Over the years you've seen companies like Honda change their weights within vehicle generations and no changes otherwise to the engine.
     
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    This is true, and ford even went as far as back-spec’ing older engines originally designed for 5w30 down to 5w20....even stating it was for fuel economy reasons.
     
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    It's not a myth. My previous company developed the additives for engine oil, and we formulated factory fill packages for a few OEMs. They contain high levels of dispersants at a minimum, which isn't generally seen in oil you buy off the shelf. I can't speak to Ford's specific factory fill package, but it would be unusual if they didn't do the same as many other OEMs.
     
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    You're absolutely ridiculous, and wrong.
     
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    And you have no data.
     
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    What data, exactly, are you requesting?
     
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    Let me pull it out of my back pocket, that I just carry around in the event an internet troll wants to ask for the reasoning behind why a vehicle manufacturer all of a sudden switches from 5w20 to 5w30, and even changes existing applications to it as well.

    Is your google broken? Do your own research.
     
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    FWIW, Ford does have some different oil specifications for factory-fill and service-fill. Unfortunately, I don't have access to the specs, but there are some that are different. That's not to say that one oil can't meet both specs. Also, that's not to say that all Ford engines have different factory and service fill specs.

    But yea, the 20 weights are for economy and Ford has put this in writing for all to see.
     
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    On my 19 I dont have have any ticking that's not normal and rhythmic due to the DI system. Sounds just like every other DI car I've owned but I do have the 2k rattle. Has anyone had any luck making that go away with ceratec? I've read post where people were sure the noise is in the engine but I cant recreate the noise in neutral only when I'm in gear driving. Makes me wonder if its clutch chatter causing the rattle?
     
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    while my engine was having a tick I tried both - mos2 and ceratec. mos2 does NOT have impact on existing tick. Ceratec does.

    p.s. i would never considered oil additives or alternative oil viscosity if not this hateful bbq tick. ymmv, but I prefer to add ceratec to running just oil and listening to bbq tick.
     
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