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This is something I found while doing research on the Whipple and ESS G3 Kit:

"Both the Whipple supercharger and the ESS G3 Kit are excellent choices for boosting your Mustang GT’s performance, but they have some key differences. Here are some advantages of the Whipple supercharger over the ESS G3 Kit:

  1. Instant Torque and Power Delivery: The Whipple supercharger, being a twin-screw type, provides instant boost and torque from low RPMs. This means you get a more immediate and linear power delivery, which is great for street driving and quick acceleration.
  2. Higher Peak Power Potential: Whipple superchargers are known for their ability to produce very high peak power. They are often used in high-horsepower builds and can support significant power levels with the right supporting modifications2.
  3. Integrated Intercooler: Whipple kits typically come with a highly efficient integrated intercooler system. This helps in reducing intake air temperatures, which can improve performance and reliability, especially during extended periods of high boost3.
  4. OEM-like Fit and Finish: Whipple superchargers are designed to fit under the factory hood without modifications. They often have a more OEM-like appearance and integration, which can be a plus for those who prefer a cleaner, factory look3.
  5. Proven Reliability: Whipple has a long-standing reputation for reliability and durability. Their superchargers are extensively tested and have a strong track record in both street and track applications2.
On the other hand, the ESS G3 Kit has its own set of advantages, such as being more cost-effective and easier to install. It also tends to be less stressful on the car’s internals due to its centrifugal design, which builds boost progressively5."
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I wouldn't just assume ESS is cheaper either, the whipple comes as a complete kit
This is something I found while doing research on the Whipple and ESS G3 Kit:

"Both the Whipple supercharger and the ESS G3 Kit are excellent choices for boosting your Mustang GT’s performance, but they have some key differences. Here are some advantages of the Whipple supercharger over the ESS G3 Kit:

  1. Instant Torque and Power Delivery: The Whipple supercharger, being a twin-screw type, provides instant boost and torque from low RPMs. This means you get a more immediate and linear power delivery, which is great for street driving and quick acceleration1.
  2. Higher Peak Power Potential: Whipple superchargers are known for their ability to produce very high peak power. They are often used in high-horsepower builds and can support significant power levels with the right supporting modifications2.
  3. Integrated Intercooler: Whipple kits typically come with a highly efficient integrated intercooler system. This helps in reducing intake air temperatures, which can improve performance and reliability, especially during extended periods of high boost3.
  4. OEM-like Fit and Finish: Whipple superchargers are designed to fit under the factory hood without modifications. They often have a more OEM-like appearance and integration, which can be a plus for those who prefer a cleaner, factory look3.
  5. Proven Reliability: Whipple has a long-standing reputation for reliability and durability. Their superchargers are extensively tested and have a strong track record in both street and track applications2.
On the other hand, the ESS G3 Kit has its own set of advantages, such as being more cost-effective and easier to install. It also tends to be less stressful on the car’s internals due to its centrifugal design, which builds boost progressively5."
Very opinion heavy points, also very debatable whether an ESS is cheaper, maybe the G2 but that's not exactly the model on the same level as a whipple either
 
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So now you know my delimma, ESS looks cheaper at first but when you dig into it…. I wonder what the difference would be power wise, I think I read somewhere the Whipple includes the tune in their kit.
 

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Again, there are 4 different ESS superchargers and a thousand different pullies, either one will make more power than your stock engine and fuel system can handle long term
 

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So there seems to be two defined camps in the Mustang community. ESS and Whipple yes I know there are other choices.
ESS is a relatively simple DIY installation, not really sure about the Whipple.
Besides price (ESS g3) Whipple being considerably more $$ and power delivery with the centrifugal being higher rpm and the Whipple being on the bottom end.
Is there really one that is truly better at the end of the day?
Two different types of supercharging. Whipple is a PD, Instant power and ESS is a Centri which has stock power until around 5k rpm. Centri is lower cost. Both are fun.
 

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Before and after directly from the ESS website

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Correction. I meant before full hp/tq and more like 4k> My bad, but two totally different power adders.
 

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I've owned both. I prefer the ESS because it feels like I'm driving a stockish car around town but if I need the power it's there. Some people have it in their heads it doesn't make power until 5500 rpms or so. Which is a lie. Having aggressive cam overlap mid range aids the centrifugal blower alot in spinning up. I also like the IATs since I live in one of the hottest states in the country. Also prefer the sound, install, and price over a PD blower.
Another factor is not needing to drive around town on drag radials. I don't daily the car but I like the look of a "street" car not a drag car. My cheapo street tires handle the traction well. There is tire spin but it doesn't show itself in second gear until around 6k. Higher gears it's virtually non existent. I personally like the idea of not having a massive oven on the top of my engine but that's just me.

Edit a centrifugal is also much nicer to all your stock parts you'll still have. PDs have brutal torque that stock parts like axles, don't like.
 
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I went ESS. Nothing against Whipple. But I don't wanna replace my half shafts (sure you don't havvvve to...but I would because I'm paranoid as fake sometimes)
 

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I’d get a centrifugal.
 

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Every ESS guy: get ESS
Every whipple guy: get the whipple.

So with that said,, get the whipple! Haha
I was gonna do VMP since the emblem on the Odin matched my tattoo. Now I just need to have a tattoo match my ESS 🤔
 

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I've owned both. I prefer the ESS because it feels like I'm driving a stockish car around town but if I need the power it's there. Some people have it in their heads it doesn't make power until 5500 rpms or so. Which is a lie. Having aggressive cam overlap mid range aids the centrifugal blower alot in spinning up. I also like the IATs since I live in one of the hottest states in the country. Also prefer the sound, install, and price over a PD blower.
Another factor is not needing to drive around town on drag radials. I don't daily the car but I like the look of a "street" car not a drag car. My cheapo street tires handle the traction well. There is tire spin but it doesn't show itself in second gear until around 6k. Higher gears it's virtually non existent. I personally like the idea of not having a massive oven on the top of my engine but that's just me.

Edit a centrifugal is also much nicer to all your stock parts you'll still have. PDs have brutal torque that stock parts like axles, don't like.
I almost went with a ESS but, I decided I would have much more fun playing under 70 mph and I love spinning my tires every time I excelerate. Plus, I know PD are much more brutal on the drivetrain so I installed, QA1 CF DS, GForce Outlaw axles, MMR bellhousing brace, Boomba rear transmission mount and more, just so I have less of a chance of needing a tow truck LOL
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