Need recommendations on hellion sleeper vs ess vs whipple

[robvas]

How does a wastegated ess supercharger do in the midrange compared to a turbo setup.

Not even close. It'll make a lb or two more than the non-wastegated setup

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[Cordero1]

Didn't know you could wastegate an ESS kit

 

[80FoxCoupe]

Didn't know you could wastegate an ESS kit

You could run a wastegate setup on any centri kit.

 

[80FoxCoupe]

I started looking at some Dyno graphs and I'm surprised seeing the tt kits are making great power even as low as 4k rpm witch I would be more than happy with. Im not going to be lowering the car and plan to stay with a 27-28in tire so not sure if ground clearance would be an issue. one big thing is I'm not a fan of cluttering up the engine bay with tons of piping making it harder to work on than it already is. so perhaps the bottom mount turbo would be better than the top mount for that. The whipple would definitely be the least cluttering but it would be the hardest on the whole drivetrain traction would definitely be an issue . ess is the most enticing because of the price but the base bottom mount hellion is honestly not much more. Once the factory trans fries i would probably go with a rsa built trans and converter

You are overthinking this. 700hp is nothing and can be achieved by any system on the market. Don't worry about if this is harder on the engine or whatever, 700hp on a coyote is nothing. If you want turbos, get turbos. No need to try to justify it, just get, put it on and be done.

At the same power level, virtually all kits will run about the same times.

 

[93Ford]

You are overthinking this. 700hp is nothing and can be achieved by any system on the market. Don't worry about if this is harder on the engine or whatever, 700hp on a coyote is nothing. If you want turbos, get turbos. No need to try to justify it, just get, put it on and be done.

At the same power level, virtually all kits will run about the same times.

I am indeed the king of overthinking things. I do indeed want to go the turbo route so will probably go with that. Most likely the bottom mount

 

[80FoxCoupe]

I am indeed the king of overthinking things. I do indeed want to go the turbo route so will probably go with that. Most likely the bottom mount

I'm sure a bottom mount TT kit will serve you well. Every system has its pros and cons. Everyone has a different version of ideal. Not many truly daily drive a boosted coyote. My definition of daily is all 4 seasons and 15k miles per year. Bottom mount TT kit would not be ideal for me.

 

[93Ford]

Iv seen a lot of people having concerns with the intakes being so low on the bottom mount I do as well but I haven't ever seen anybody actually have a problem like the engine sucking in a bunch of water locking the motor or ripping a turbo off of a speed bump. Maybe I just haven't looked hard enough. I do have a truck so if the monsoon comes by or I know I'll be on some rough terrain I can just drive that instead.

 

[Torinate]

I'm sure a bottom mount TT kit will serve you well. Every system has its pros and cons. Everyone has a different version of ideal. Not many truly daily drive a boosted coyote. My definition of daily is all 4 seasons and 15k miles per year. Bottom mount TT kit would not be ideal for me.

lol

Just looked out my window… 2 feet of snow and 8 inch puddles everywhere… I’m thinking if I were to have a true daily, a bottom mount twin turbo set up would not work for me either…

 

[Zrussian13]

Iv seen a lot of people having concerns with the intakes being so low on the bottom mount I do as well but I haven't ever seen anybody actually have a problem like the engine sucking in a bunch of water locking the motor or ripping a turbo off of a speed bump. Maybe I just haven't looked hard enough. I do have a truck so if the monsoon comes by or I know I'll be on some rough terrain I can just drive that instead.

Both are usually non issues. Don't mount the filters straight to the turbos. Use the fittings that turn them up and tuck them by the engine and you'll be fine in rain. At factory height you won't scrap the turbos unless your taking speed bumps like a maniac. And even then you'll only scrape the oil reservoir not the turbos. They aren't falling off if installed right.

 

[80FoxCoupe]

Iv seen a lot of people having concerns with the intakes being so low on the bottom mount I do as well but I haven't ever seen anybody actually have a problem like the engine sucking in a bunch of water locking the motor or ripping a turbo off of a speed bump. Maybe I just haven't looked hard enough. I do have a truck so if the monsoon comes by or I know I'll be on some rough terrain I can just drive that instead.

A vast majority of people with a TT s550 don't drive in the rain. Think true daily, 100deg sitting in traffic for an hour, 15k miles a year, rain/snow, cold start and go, short trips, vacation long trip... Real daily driver, is anyone here doing that? I am with my vortech f150, but it's a mild setup by design to accommodate the above.

 

[robvas]

Zero desire to drive a boosted car in the rain much less the snow

 

[GL95]

How does a wastegated ess supercharger do in the midrange compared to a turbo setup. I am a big fan of how simple the ess is compared to a turbo setup it’s also a whole lot cheaper.

There is a lot of hidden cost in ESS that I don't think a lot of people realize.

 

[robvas]

There is a lot of hidden cost in ESS that I don't think a lot of people realize.

Like what? Other than the tune/device

 

[Wolfys11]

A vast majority of people with a TT s550 don't drive in the rain. Think true daily, 100deg sitting in traffic for an hour, 15k miles a year, rain/snow, cold start and go, short trips, vacation long trip... Real daily driver, is anyone here doing that? I am with my vortech f150, but it's a mild setup by design to accommodate the above.

I dont drive my stang daily, as i do too much milage nowadays, but before i got other cars i used to drive in the rain, snow, etc all conditions, ive never wanted to drive the stang and didnt due to conditions. Anyways, i drive all modified cars making more power than stock, all boosted except my truck. If you are willing and are used to driving in bad conditions, its totally doable. However imo 460hp or 800+ doesnt change whether or not i would drive it in bad conditions, if its bad boosted it would be bad na. You can go sideways with stock power in rain or snow and no skill

 

[Bob Lob Law]

A vast majority of people with a TT s550 don't drive in the rain. Think true daily, 100deg sitting in traffic for an hour, 15k miles a year, rain/snow, cold start and go, short trips, vacation long trip... Real daily driver, is anyone here doing that? I am with my vortech f150, but it's a mild setup by design to accommodate the above.

Mine is a true daily! I drive rain, shine, snow and Ice. April will be 3 years of ownership and currently sitting at 49,xxx miles. Absolutely a BLAST daily driving a boosted coyote!!!

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