BBQ Tick Fix

[stangman638]

Another interesting tidbit, datalogged today, factory tune in sport mode on the selectshift, had knock as high as 9 degrees retard, drive mode had max 1 degree, my guess is the higher rpms in sport mode is causing it. Going to do some redlines tomorrow in first and second to see if it can get cleared up. Wonder if related to that tick, anyone else have that tick and have issues with getting knock?

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[Andy13186]

Another interesting tidbit, datalogged today, factory tune in sport mode on the selectshift, had knock as high as 9 degrees retard, drive mode had max 1 degree, my guess is the higher rpms in sport mode is causing it. Going to do some redlines tomorrow in first and second to see if it can get cleared up. Wonder if related to that tick, anyone else have that tick and have issues with getting knock?

Most ive seen is 3 degrees, but I ALWAYS get 2 degrees, I think 2 degrees is built into the tune. On shell v power 93 octane. Tried mobile 1 93 no difference. Ive gotten up to 30.5 degrees of timing pulled though on shifts in all modes except dragstrip while paddle shifting.

 

[stangman638]

Most ive seen is 3 degrees, but I ALWAYS get 2 degrees, I think 2 degrees is built into the tune. On shell v power 93 octane. Tried mobile 1 93 no difference. Ive gotten up to 30.5 degrees of timing pulled though on shifts in all modes except dragstrip while paddle shifting.

I just hammered on it past half hour using the paddle shifters, back to one degree knock, you on factory tune or a custom?

 

[Andy13186]

bone stock factory tune, only mod is a catch can.

 

[Notagain]

https://www.enginelabs.com/engine-t...specific-oil-could-save-your-ecoboost-engine/

“Simply put, direct-injection engines create higher levels of fuel dilution in the motor oil, and that creates specific problems,” Lake explained. “Traditional motor oils contain high levels of calcium based detergents. These calcium detergents help with fuel economy, prevent rust and keep the engine clean. However, these same calcium detergents also increase the tendency of an abnormal combustion event, also known as Low-Speed Pre-Ignition. LSPI events can destroy an engine, so motor oils are being reformulated to reduce the tendency for LSPI to occur.”

If you own a 2018 Mustang with the latest, dual-fuel Coyote engine, you might be thinking you don’t need a DI-specific oil. Don’t be too hasty though. Though the addition of port injection does mitigate some of the DI-only issues, it doesn’t mask them all.

“The dual-injection system helps to overcome some of these issues. Essentially, the engine is programmed to operate as a port-injection engine under the conditions where LSPI is most likely to occur, and then the engine switches to direct injection once it is out of those conditions,” Lake said. “On paper, this sounds like a good mechanical solution to the LSPI problem, but it has not been proven to completely prevent LSPI from occurring while using traditional motor oil formulas.”

So, it wouldn’t hurt to run oil designed for direct-injection engine in your dual-fuel Gen 3 Coyote, but not just to keep detonation at bay. That soot you see on the exhaust tip can also create extra wear.

“It is also worth mentioning that all direct-injection engines, even dual-injection system engines, create soot, and DI soot can increase wear,” he added. “This is one of the formulation considerations for direct-injection engine — you have to design the oil to handle the soot.”


This whole BBQ (who the fuck came up with that name) tick and everyone throwing a fit about noisey engines and use Rotella is getting sickening on this forum

The link above is where I believe this so called issue is going to go.

Even if personally I believe the tick nonsense is bullshit and blown out of proportion just the same if not worse than the OMG your OPG is going to shatter after some dickwad with a hellion kit on a 2015 toasted his engine wayyyyyy back long ago with the S550 1st came out.

Id bet a whole lot of money that clown bounced it off the limiter and thats why the engine ate the OPG.

Anyways click link above and read.

This is going to be a battle ALL DI (yes i know the gen3 is dual injected but still) engines will face as fuel issue contaminating the oil. How else do cylinders score so easily.

And for the love of god Rotella is not some magic cure all oil.

Its MASKING whats going on people!

But but but its a diesel oil......

NO Shit Diesels are direct injected as well thus the oil is designed to withstand it and not breakdown or thin out once it gets fuel in it.

Lastly until a god damn coyote comes with a catch can on it from factory I refuse to put one on my car. Throw them away and if you are that paranoid change the freaking oil more frequently!!

 

[stangman638]

https://www.enginelabs.com/engine-t...specific-oil-could-save-your-ecoboost-engine/

“Simply put, direct-injection engines create higher levels of fuel dilution in the motor oil, and that creates specific problems,” Lake explained. “Traditional motor oils contain high levels of calcium based detergents. These calcium detergents help with fuel economy, prevent rust and keep the engine clean. However, these same calcium detergents also increase the tendency of an abnormal combustion event, also known as Low-Speed Pre-Ignition. LSPI events can destroy an engine, so motor oils are being reformulated to reduce the tendency for LSPI to occur.”

If you own a 2018 Mustang with the latest, dual-fuel Coyote engine, you might be thinking you don’t need a DI-specific oil. Don’t be too hasty though. Though the addition of port injection does mitigate some of the DI-only issues, it doesn’t mask them all.

“The dual-injection system helps to overcome some of these issues. Essentially, the engine is programmed to operate as a port-injection engine under the conditions where LSPI is most likely to occur, and then the engine switches to direct injection once it is out of those conditions,” Lake said. “On paper, this sounds like a good mechanical solution to the LSPI problem, but it has not been proven to completely prevent LSPI from occurring while using traditional motor oil formulas.”

So, it wouldn’t hurt to run oil designed for direct-injection engine in your dual-fuel Gen 3 Coyote, but not just to keep detonation at bay. That soot you see on the exhaust tip can also create extra wear.

“It is also worth mentioning that all direct-injection engines, even dual-injection system engines, create soot, and DI soot can increase wear,” he added. “This is one of the formulation considerations for direct-injection engine — you have to design the oil to handle the soot.”


This whole BBQ (who the fuck came up with that name) tick and everyone throwing a fit about noisey engines and use Rotella is getting sickening on this forum

The link above is where I believe this so called issue is going to go.

Even if personally I believe the tick nonsense is bullshit and blown out of proportion just the same if not worse than the OMG your OPG is going to shatter after some dickwad with a hellion kit on a 2015 toasted his engine wayyyyyy back long ago with the S550 1st came out.

Id bet a whole lot of money that clown bounced it off the limiter and thats why the engine ate the OPG.

Anyways click link above and read.

This is going to be a battle ALL DI (yes i know the gen3 is dual injected but still) engines will face as fuel issue contaminating the oil. How else do cylinders score so easily.

And for the love of god Rotella is not some magic cure all oil.

Its MASKING whats going on people!

But but but its a diesel oil......

NO Shit Diesels are direct injected as well thus the oil is designed to withstand it and not breakdown or thin out once it gets fuel in it.

Lastly until a god damn coyote comes with a catch can on it from factory I refuse to put one on my car. Throw them away and if you are that paranoid change the freaking oil more frequently!!

https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/threads/bbq-tick-solved.111085/

 

[Notagain]

Yup posted in that thread too LOL

 

[GregO]

I refuse to get to deep in the weeds over oil.
Just know what your using and life is good.
Rotella 0W-40 is API rated SN and CJ-4
Rotella Multi 5W-30 is API SN

Anyone paying attention knows I run Land Rover Spec. Castrol Professional E 0W-20, same stuff used in the 2010 up RRS 5.0 Supercharged 510 HP Ford designed Tata Motors newest DI motor. 15,000 mile Land Rover Factory recommended OCI......... ( I go 8,000 to 10,000 )
And yes 0W-20 is better oil than 5W-20.

I sleep very well knowing what’s in my oil pans .....

 

[careature]

I believe many people have replaced short blocks and engines only to have the same tick eventually come back once assembly is broke in. No thanks, unless it is a true failure or knocking at temperature I personally would not go through the hassle.

There is no way an aluminun block high rpm dohc v8 motor cannot loosen up (break in) within tolerances and be mechanically silent. Have you ever heard a forged slug high compression chevy big block fire up cold before? Lol.

Buy a Prius is you want a quiet engine...

Besides technical aspects.

a) Engine that is knocking brings your car's resale value to zero.

b) Engine sound does matter. Ford acknowledges this by sound injection in cabins through speakers and sound pipes.
Personally. I feel great discomfort when hear engine knock.

 

[Zinc03svt]

Besides technical aspects.

a) Engine that is knocking brings your car's resale value to zero.

b) Engine sound does matter. Ford acknowledges this by sound injection in cabins through speakers and sound pipes.
Personally. I feel great discomfort when hear engine knock.

Knocking and ticking/clicking on cold start (most of the vids) are two completely different things...

There is mass confusion (this forum) on normal cold start sounds and a motor that is about to go south due to mechanical failure.

Trade in value...? Wtf?

 

[careature]

Knocking and ticking/clicking on cold start (most of the vids) are two completely different things...

There is mass confusion (this forum) on normal cold start sounds and a motor that is about to go south due to mechanical failure.

Trade in value...? Wtf?

Do not spend your energy here. You'll need it later to convince potential buyer these noises are normal. Until that you get 0 dollars for your car.

 

[Notagain]

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Umm OK guy.

OMG its not a Tesla its sooooo loud!!

LOLOLOLOLOL

 

[careature]

Location CA.........^^^^^^^^

Umm OK guy.

OMG its not a Tesla its sooooo loud!!

LOLOLOLOLOL

Hey... I'm not buying your car, do not try to impress me

 

[AZ18yote]

Location CA.........^^^^^^^^

Umm OK guy.

OMG its not a Tesla its sooooo loud!!

LOLOLOLOLOL

I'd love to hear a Tesla roadster sound nasty to match the nasty numbers it reported in 0-60 and 1/4....

 

[Andy13186]

My dealership is saying they think mine is the exhaust guides.. they will be tearing into it next week =/

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