Any easy mods for torque

[302@12psi]

I'm about 900 miles into my 2019 Mustang GT PP2 and my goodness off the line this car feels gutless. Granted I'm taking it easy on the "break in" but it doesn't seem like it has much low end torque for a V-8. For those that went with Ford Performance PP2 kits does this increase the torque in the lower RPM range? Am I stuck looking at Roush superchargers?

The car really starts to come alive it feels like pass 3k rpms but I've only been shifting at 4k a few times. I'm not looking to drag race at street lights but the constant minivan beating the Mustang off the line is a bit much.

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[BmacIL]

15-17 MT82 transmission. The ratios are quite a bit shorter.

Oh, easy?
Well, Flex or E85 tune will give you the biggest bump.

 

[hiccup]

Get a pedalmax or pedal commander. ..you'll discover how much Ford didn't give the buyer. You will also smile more lol..

 

[BmacIL]

Get a pedalmax or pedal commander. ..you'll discover how much Ford didn't give the buyer. You will also smile more lol..

Or just press the pedal down more and get the same thing.

 

[GuardGT]

Keep in mind yes its a v8...but its ONLY a 302. They were never known to be torque monsters by any means, especially these modular motors. If your car was going to have any catastrophic failures it would have happened already so its more than plenty "broken in" so go bang that sucker off the rev limiter a few times and report back. These cars are gutless till 4500 anyway, hence why the a10 performs so well. After driving the car and realizing where it actually performs you might change your mind. If not, there have been a few guys that have really liked 4.09 gears which should help a ton, especially if you go with a good e85 tune.

 

[Zinc03svt]

E85 tune. 40-50 torque everywhere down low.

 

[GregO]

I'm about 900 miles into my 2019 Mustang GT PP2 and my goodness off the line this car feels gutless. Granted I'm taking it easy on the "break in" but it doesn't seem like it has much low end torque for a V-8. For those that went with Ford Performance PP2 kits does this increase the torque in the lower RPM range? Am I stuck looking at Roush superchargers?

The car really starts to come alive it feels like pass 3k rpms but I've only been shifting at 4k a few times. I'm not looking to drag race at street lights but the constant minivan beating the Mustang off the line is a bit much.

Honestly,
Shaftmaster 3.5" aluminum DS transformed my 2015 lethargic bottom end. I won't get in the weeds over who's DS to use but I'll say Shaftmaster build quality is 100% on point. Vibration issues...... none ! Car just snaps off the shifts (MT-82 with Motul Multi DCTF).
Also rear subframe lockout helped with taking the lazyboy recliner feel out of the car. I have a combination of BMR CB010 Level 1 with Steeda IRS alignment pins ( this combo has minimal increase NVH )

 

[thehunterooo]

Minivans? I think a driver mod is needed badly.

 

[hiccup]

Or just press the pedal down more and get the same thing.

Not really..you push that stock throttle faster and quicker it still opens at the same rate..now it snaps open the throttle plate like i have a throttle cable once more...I was told that by you and your likes for nearly two years. That's two years I didnt get to really enjoy the potential of this 5.0..thank God I listened to the believers.. Think about it..there is a reason they're not handing this product out for the price of a k&n filter..duh

 

[BmacIL]

Not really..you push that stock throttle faster and quicker it still opens at the same rate..now it snaps open the throttle plate like i have a throttle cable once more...I was told that by you and your likes for nearly two years. That's two years I didnt get to really enjoy the potential of this 5.0..thank God I listened to the believers.. Think about it..there is a reason they're not handing this product out for the price of a k&n filter..duh

Uh huh. Believe what you want to. It just opens more for a given input. That's all it does. If you're happy, fine, but the only thing those products do is change the input to output ratio. It's a scalar on pedal command, that's it. It doesn't change the throttle body motor speed. If you want to ignore facts because it makes you happy, go for it.

I've owned something very similar for a previous car. It feels quicker but isn't. It makes no more torque. It was a fun novelty for a few weeks but I ditched it in favor of having pedal modulation.

 

[ENPhoto]

Or just press the pedal down more and get the same thing.

Any tuner should be able to scale your "Normal" "Track" and "Wet/Snow" mode pedal positions as well. In HPT, the parameters are all there. I scaled my track one slightly and much prefer it to the stock configuration.

 

[Bluemustang]

Another factor here is Ford puts a lot of torque limiting on the 15-17s, maybe it’s the same on the 18s. Some tuners remove some or all of this. It increases response without having to change the throttle demand tables.

The pedal commander pedalmax thing just change the throttle demand table that’s it. In fact Ford already did this with the sport mode. It increases the actual throttle output for a given input. These throttle devices probably give the illusion removing throttle lag because there’s less time putting your foot down.

I have a Lund tune and I don’t feel any throttle lag. I did feel some throttle lag when I was stock. Lund did not touch the throttle demand tables. The only thing they do is reduce the amount of the torque limiting in the tune.

If I’m being perfectly honest, I would like to see if Lund can change the throttle table in the sport mode so it’s linear 1:1. This would make the pedal easier to modulate. I would never give up throttle modulation. It makes it harder to drive the car IMO and in some cases could make things unsafe if you’re driving really fast. Just offering my two cents.

 

[hiccup]

Nope..actual mechanical proof ..you cant push pedal farther or faster or tune this in or sport mode this in

 

[Nomadic]

Nothing will give you more noticeable torque except super charging. I've test driven PP manual from 15-18. The 3.73s help but the Whipple was the only thing that really made a difference. Otherwise I think you're wasting your time. The A10 I test drove felt way more torquey than the manual too.

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