10R80 is no PDK

[2021 Mach 1]

The 10R80 delivers the high-performance experience that I demand. Paddle shifting is lighting-quick and precise. Ford really hit it out-of-the-park with the 10R80.

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[furdfan2018]

no shit.

Right? lol

Great thread, OP

 

[Shawn82]

Even coming from Hyundai's N DCT, no it's obvious the 10R80 is not the greatest thing on earth. But like other's mentioned, that's why it's reasonable affordable vs the transmissions you lot are comparing it to.

However I don't think it's god awful like some of you are making it out to be. Especially with a transmission tune, it's definitely pretty snappy with the shifts even with the paddles. We also know that it's very adaptive to whomever is driving the car. Once you get used to it's patterns it's pretty easy to tell what it's doing. But it is a shame that I had to go as far as tuning it to make the paddles bearable.

 

[SheepDog]

Even coming from Hyundai's N DCT, no it's obvious the 10R80 is not the greatest thing on earth. But like other's mentioned, that's why it's reasonable affordable vs the transmissions you lot are comparing it to.

However I don't think it's god awful like some of you are making it out to be. Especially with a transmission tune, it's definitely pretty snappy with the shifts even with the paddles. We also know that it's very adaptive to whomever is driving the car. Once you get used to it's patterns it's pretty easy to tell what it's doing. But it is a shame that I had to go as far as tuning it to make the paddles bearable.

Yeah, comparing the 10R80 to a PDK is like me comparing my MACH 1 to a 911 GT3 - there is no comparison.

The Hyundai DCT is pretty damn impressive really, as are the DSG's in VW's, and those cars cost less than a GT

 

[skinnyb]

I agree. I have had several VW with the DSG and they are lightning fast. The 10R80 has its drawbacks, it shifts clunky especially when downshifting. But when on full throttle it shifts pretty darn quick for me. I have learned to both live with and appreciate the good bad and ugly. Gonna get a tune soon, have been told that helps a lot.

 

[Shawn82]

Yeah, comparing the 10R80 to a PDK is like me comparing my MACH 1 to a 911 GT3 - there is no comparison.

The Hyundai DCT is pretty damn impressive really, as are the DSG's in VW's, and those cars cost less than a GT

I agree. I have had several VW with the DSG and they are lightning fast. The 10R80 has its drawbacks, it shifts clunky especially when downshifting. But when on full throttle it shifts pretty darn quick for me. I have learned to both live with and appreciate the good bad and ugly. Gonna get a tune soon, have been told that helps a lot.

I agree 100%, full throttle and letting the auto do it's thing, it's REALLY impressive

 

[Oakley]

The 10R80 may be strong, but it is nowhere near as user friendly as a PDK. The PDK shifted in milliseconds, the 10R80 takes centuries to follow my command.

I tell the 10R80 to downshift, wait a second, tap down, wait a second, tap down, wait then B-A-N-G it shifts three at once feels like I hit a tree.

Ford's manual transmission has problems and their automatic also has problems. The ZF (6 speed manual) in my 335Xi is fun and willing to play. The PDK is a joy.

Why can't Ford and GM make a fun transmission?

 

[K4fxd]

My Son's SQ5 has the ZF-8 it is 10 times the transmission the 6R80 is

 

[DrZed]

I wonder if most of this is Ford's programming? My buddy has a ZL1 with the same 10 speed and tracks the car. 0 complaints from him.

 

[Dana Pants]

If you have to shift more than one gear at a time you aren’t having THAT much fun.

 

[fast306stang]

Even the DSG's in Volkswagens are far superior to the 10R80, not to mention the 8 speed ZF's in BMW's.

The BMW 8 speed ZF is damn good. I was impressed with my wife's 335i. Actually, I was impressed with the whole car. Should have kept it.

 

[Basspro302]

Idc what you guys say boosted 10r80 upshifts make me erect.

 

[2023EGM1]

ZF8: Idaily drive my Audi S4 with a ZF8, it’s smooth, very fast and precise when using shift paddles. No gear hunting whatsoever. Spirited driving in Sport Mode is not aggressive though. On an 3.0T Q5, the same gearbox was too gentle, but fast.

DSG: I loved my DSG on my GTI, but it was a bit awkward at traffic speeds. I went for an Audi A5 that had the equivalent transmission, and I hated it, slow and it worked as it was protecting itself all the time.

A10: fast, very fast in auto mode, amazing. Paddle inputs have delays that I dislike, but since this engine pulls strong all the way to redline (very different on the s4), I don’t really need to shift myself that often. Sports mode are aggressive, I like them. The gearbox is harsh, while I may be one of the fortunate that received a partially full gearbox.

 

[WildHorse]

Ford and GM don't make that. Getrag makes that, at a factory in a communist country.

Don't care where it was made. Mines been trouble free, takes a beating, and still on the stock clutch & release bearing.

 

[geep81]

The BMW 8 speed ZF is damn good. I was impressed with my wife's 335i. Actually, I was impressed with the whole car. Should have kept it.

With those plastic engine parts that are designed to fail inside the motor?

Sad that BMW neuters their cars long term that way still to this day. Just costs way too much to operate one for 10 years with all the maintenance and upkeep, some of which you just wouldn't have to do if they'd spend a few more bucks on some metal parts where it counts.

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