10R80 bucking- is this normal?

[3szoom]

Yep, and easy to prove. Just plant the foot.

Thats how I fixed it

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[sirben711]

Does a tune fix all these issues with the A10?

I really hope so, I am not impressed with my 10r80.

Mine has problems with hard downshifts. But mine (even in regular mode!) will buck a little in traffic with very light throttle inputs. But this is the least of my worries with this thing haha

 

[21 antimatter]

I've noticed over sensitive throttle response in S+ mode. Also, using cruise control in normal mode causes some gear hunting and lugging up hills. I really think most of the issues have to do with less than perfect software/tuning. I would bet that the Ford engineers are over worked and aren't able to refine the driving dynamics as much as they would like to. Probably in "git r done" mode due to management expectations. So much for quality is job one :(. The company is spending the money on warranty labor when they should have just dialed in the design and software more thoroughly. Maybe the adaptive algorithms just need some tweaking. I've even noticed the harder downshifts seem to be noticeable when going from even to odd gears. Could this just be a characteristic of the transmission due to the number of planetary gearsets and whats happening internally when switching from even to odd gears, could that be smoothed out by modifying the shift programming? Some more detailed owners manual explanation of how the adaptive learning works would be helpful too (how long does it take, what is normal "odd" transmission behavior, etc). Maybe Ford could use some of the data that is being harvested from our vehicles to improve driveability by providing a software update free of charge with an oil change at a Ford dealership service department. With enough data, a few talented engineers can fix just about anything. Hopefully in time all of the common issues will get ironed out. Overall the 10R80 is an awesome transmission, I mean, who would have thought that a 460HP sports car could ever get 29-30mpg on the highway. That is an amazing accomplishment.

 

[ChitownStang]

One day the 10-speed is great and the next day it has a mind of it's own. So frustrating!
Even when using the paddles and warmed up there can be a weird hanging shift from 4th to 5th.

 

[victory-rc]

It's foot control ,either put your foot in it more so it down shift or lift off.

My 17 6-speed had it also low RPM jitters.
I don't know if it's true somebody told me it's because the air is flowing so slow in the intake manifold ,the computer has a hard time with that.... the hardest thing for the computer to do is get a 500 horsepower motor to have perfect drivability.

 

[sirben711]

I've noticed over sensitive throttle response in S+ mode. Also, using cruise control in normal mode causes some gear hunting and lugging up hills. I really think most of the issues have to do with less than perfect software/tuning. I would bet that the Ford engineers are over worked and aren't able to refine the driving dynamics as much as they would like to. Probably in "git r done" mode due to management expectations. So much for quality is job one :(. The company is spending the money on warranty labor when they should have just dialed in the design and software more thoroughly. Maybe the adaptive algorithms just need some tweaking. I've even noticed the harder downshifts seem to be noticeable when going from even to odd gears. Could this just be a characteristic of the transmission due to the number of planetary gearsets and whats happening internally when switching from even to odd gears, could that be smoothed out by modifying the shift programming? Some more detailed owners manual explanation of how the adaptive learning works would be helpful too (how long does it take, what is normal "odd" transmission behavior, etc). Maybe Ford could use some of the data that is being harvested from our vehicles to improve driveability by providing a software update free of charge with an oil change at a Ford dealership service department. With enough data, a few talented engineers can fix just about anything. Hopefully in time all of the common issues will get ironed out. Overall the 10R80 is an awesome transmission, I mean, who would have thought that a 460HP sports car could ever get 29-30mpg on the highway. That is an amazing accomplishment.

100% agree.

I will say, moderate to hard accelerating in the 10R80 is very very very good, but am I accelerating all the time? No.
Its all the other things, the decelerating, light throttle inputs, the coasting, that has a lot more to be desired. This transmission (in my opinion) does not do well in a traffic situations.

 

[ChitownStang]

It's foot control ,either put your foot in it more so it down shift or lift off.

My 17 6-speed had it also low RPM jitters.
I don't know if it's true somebody told me it's because the air is flowing so slow in the intake manifold ,the computer has a hard time with that.... the hardest thing for the computer to do is get a 500 horsepower motor to have perfect drivability.

So why does everyone say Camaro does it fine and Ford has no clue?

 

[IPOGT]

I’ve searched through a number of threads including the A10 list of issues but couldn’t find anything like what I’m experiencing.

I just got my 2021 GT last month and it’s a blast to drive. That said, I’ve come across an issue and am trying to figure out if it’s a common characteristic of the A10, or if I need to get it checked out.

Whether I’m in automatic shifting or paddle shifting, and in normal or sport mode, if I’m feathering the throttle (driving in parking lot or in traffic) the transmission seems to buck in 3rd or 4th gear between 2 to 3 thousand RPMs. It’s actually really uncomfortable as the driver and it causes a lot of bucking feeling until I hit the throttle and get it out of that RPM range. It doesn’t do it all the time, but it’s annoying as hell when it happens. Is this normal? I have a service appointment next week but don’t want to come off like a dumbass. Thanks in advance!

I'd say probably not normal. It's a Mustang not a Bronco.

 

[Vertex]

Aren't Mustangs supposed to buck??

I don't think that's normal. Many of these trannys seem to be low on fluid because of the difficulty checking and filling.

I need to get my PP1, A10r80 on the lift to verify. It has some shifting characteristics I think could improve. After I drove it 1000 miles it has improved after resetting it.

Be sure and let it warm up. I keep it in normal mode till it warms. Mechanical shift solenoids.

Was going to mention letting it warm up as well. I've noticed in sport if I throw it in to early it really likes to shift rough till it's warmed up and then I don't notice it at all.

I have had mine buck as well a few times but like a few others have mentioned I know for certain I hit a small bump and it caused my foot to feather the throttle a few times which is super annoying. If I know where the bumps are I try to coast or give it more throttle to avoid this.

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