Do you regret choosing your power adder?

[Wolfys11]

you're not going to make 900whp on 93 on a Mustang GT no matter what power adder you have. You're octane limited

Again, never said 900whp on pump gas

I feel like yall just being ignorant to piss me off

I said fuel additive to make 900whp, or did you just ignore everything except the first and last 3 words

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[robvas]

Again, never said 900whp on pump gas

I feel like yall just being ignorant to piss me off

I said fuel additive to make 900whp, or did you just ignore everything except the first and last 3 words

this is what you said:

The ess kit running 5k isnt comparable apples to apples, as it makes very low boost. My kit cost 8500, and thats basically setting myself up for 900whp with a fuel system and pully swap for e85 power

and I simply said the cheap ess kit will make the power to run 9's @ 150 with the right pulley/tune/fuel

You'd also have to add that to a (much more expensive) base whipple kit to run the same

 

[ammoman]

I love my G3 ESS! My wife loves that under 3k it drives like stock, and with the taller gearing of the Calimer Stage 3 MT-82, when you open it up it pulls forever!

One of the biggest reasons I went with a centri was to not upset handling. Swapping out the crash bar and removing excess parts, the entire front end only gained about 10 lbs, and that extra weight is low (intercooler). PDs weigh a lot more, and all that weight is up high above the engine. Then considering the ease of installation and the low price, it was a no-brainer and I'd do it all over again!

 

[FeebleExpert]

My car is mainly driven on the street, and the only thing that's slightly annoying is not being able to use the SC all that much. It feels like power and smiles left on the table, but I wouldn't say I regret it. I've been very happy with my Roush... *ducks incoming comments about other kits being superior*

 

[80FoxCoupe]

My car is mainly driven on the street, and the only thing that's slightly annoying is not being able to use the SC all that much. It feels like power and smiles left on the table, but I wouldn't say I regret it. I've been very happy with my Roush... *ducks incoming comments about other kits being superior*

Just cause of traction or daily drive route/traffic?

 

[FeebleExpert]

Just cause of traction or daily drive route/traffic?

Traction is an issue from a dig, and sometimes from a roll. But I live in the Seattle metro area, so it's usually the amount of traffic and speed traps that keep my foot in check.

 

[80FoxCoupe]

Traction is an issue from a dig, and sometimes from a roll. But I live in the Seattle metro area, so it's usually the amount of traffic and speed traps that keep my foot in check.

In Seattle I suppose the rain is a factor as well. You my friend are a candidate for a 4x4 f150. Just add boost!

 

[FeebleExpert]

In Seattle I suppose the rain is a factor as well. You my friend are a candidate for a 4x4 f150. Just add boost!

That's clean! Rain is an issue for a majority of the year, and while we don't get lowland snow that often winter temps still dip consistently low enough to make driving on summer tires not good. My car will be going into the garage for its winter hibernation soon. My daily is a 2011 F-150 SCrew, I'd be worried about boosting that engine since it has nearly 140k on it!

 

[Wolfys11]

this is what you said:

The ess kit running 5k isnt comparable apples to apples, as it makes very low boost. My kit cost 8500, and thats basically setting myself up for 900whp with a fuel system and pully swap for e85 power

and I simply said the cheap ess kit will make the power to run 9's @ 150 with the right pulley/tune/fuel

You'd also have to add that to a (much more expensive) base whipple kit to run the same

You said a g2 can do all that a whipple and a g3x can do, basically saying “how much hp does this 9 second car have”

the 9 second car has a built for the setup suspension paired with a 10spd, hes not running 900whp on a g2

you also took the worsr dyno of a whipple to compare to simply make ur case

were here to give recommendations and pros/cons and what wed do, not find data to support ur claim showing the best g2 vs the worst stock whipple to claim price effeciency

yes both make power
Yes ess is cheaper to get into
Yes to make big boy power (900whp)on e85 or meth, you need to have 10k+ and it ends up being a close budget for both whipple and ess.
Thats just the way it is

 

[Nawsad123]

Only regret i have on my centri vortech v3 si is not going with a bigger blower. Topped out at 720rwhp on the blower which is making me lean towards an ess g3r this winter....

 

[Wolfys11]

Only regret i have on my centri vortech v3 si is not going with a bigger blower. Topped out at 720rwhp on the blower which is making me lean towards an ess g3r this winter....

Go for it! Ess is great, they somewhat recently got some great bracketry upgrades so the kit is superb

 

[tdstuart]

Makin about 650-700 whp
I have non performance pack gear ratio
The power comes in at top so it doesnt spin low rpm like any pd does

I could spin stock on "upgraded" tires at any rpm in 1st gear.
I now have bolt ons cam e85 with a drag tire and it spins at the high rpms.

I think it would destroy a stock tire at any rpm. So I have no idea how you are making 650whp and not fully spinning in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd

 

[Forestlump]

Only regret i have on my centri vortech v3 si is not going with a bigger blower. Topped out at 720rwhp on the blower which is making me lean towards an ess g3r this winter....

I agree, I went Paxton 2200sl (vortech JT)
Id say it's still not big enough, more than enough boost with a small pulley but you are off the best efficiency on the compressor map by then and just making heat.

Looking at the ESS kits, they are better imo. Impeller is way more efficient and a lower loss intercooler than the vortech/Paxton kits.

Don't get me wrong, you can make big power with any brand for a few seconds, centri or pd but it's how quickly it builds heat and starts to lose power thats going to be different. The centri's, especially ESS that have the weight and efficiency advantage of any supercharger.

Pd for me was a definite no from the start, these cars are already too heavy on the front and high compression, boost and heat is all stacked against the car being repeatedly fast. Different if you are drag racing and only need it to work for 10 seconds but on a track or road course, PD is useless.

Id buy ESS if I get another Mustang hands down.

 

[Forestlump]

It's amazing how much more heat you can pull with air to water vs air to air. BMW moved to it for the B58 and Corvette is using it on the C8 ZR1

But then what do you use to cool the water?
Air again!

All you've done is add another system in the loop. Air to water to air again, that adds another heat exchanger, pump, tank, hoses at the minimum, more if it's a chiller one. All extra weight over the front wheels, the last place the Mustang needs it.

 

[shogun32]

Pd for me was a definite no from the start, ... high compression, boost and heat is all stacked against the car being repeatedly fast. ... but on a track or road course, PD is useless.

which is why I scratch my head why anybody throws 10 grand or more at something that has a useful life of 10 seconds or why not everybody derates their compression down to 8 something so the motor actually has a chance.

Your own money and all that... I'm actually surprised there isn't a loud chorus of "going FI was the biggest waste of time and money".

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