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Don't be so naive. Way way back the agencies were advice to Congress. Then Congress let them set up their own enforcement regimes, then they started allowing "the agency can issue law and rules. And then the commissar, excuse me, Secretary may ...."

Yes the fig leaf is there but the devil's in the details and Congress long since abdicated it's requirement to BE the ones writing the details and thereby being forced to air the process open and debated.

TWICE the EPA has thumbed it's nose at the supreme Court and instead of demolishing the agency right damn then, they reauthorized it's budget. Congress is fully onboard with the agencies enacting their own initiative because secretly that is what they want. The Constitution is diametrically opposed to the administrative state. And they don't care.
Too much " can you approve the budget for this project? We have been thinking your neighborhood looks like its ready for a major renovation in"
COBB agreed to three payments. Interestingly COBB has an annual revenue of 18 million.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/unit...cobb-tuning-products-clean-air-act-violations

COBB got off easy, no jail time.

We can all thank VW for this. You all remember that don’t you ? An OEM with dual ECU tunes;
One EPA compliant tune.
One Al Capone tune.

Don’t think for a minute there are not EPA moles embedded into the more popular forum groups watching.
That's why people crack me up posting " just take your CAT off and put it back on when doing emission testing" especially on places like Reddit. I even replied to one guy and asked " isn't tampering with emission a federal crime" and he said " don't care"
 

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That they did for years even before fuel injection was installed on them, I changed many pilot/main jets in carbs just to get them to run worth a damn since they had them jetted way to lean to make any power, not that they ever really made any power anyways. Heck it was common knowledge that the first thing you did to any Harley was rejet it to get it to run properly.

Did it to all my bikes since the 70s including 2 strokes as well.

BD
 

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I changed many pilot/main jets in carbs just to get them to run worth a damn
I changed the factory jetting on every bike I owned since '90 as well. In some cases didn't even need to change hardware, just remove the EPA 'plug' and 1/2 a turn on the idle mixture, and a thin 0.3mm washer under the main needle seat. Improved gas mileage EVERY damn time. And low-med speed throttle connection was remedied as well.
 

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I changed the factory jetting on every bike I owned since '90 as well. In some cases didn't even need to change hardware, just remove the EPA 'plug' and 1/2 a turn on the idle mixture, and a thin 0.3mm washer under the main needle seat. Improved gas mileage EVERY damn time. And low-med speed throttle connection was remedied as well.
My modded Echo Arbor saw from 2007 had a catalytic muffler. 2007…… two stroke 38cc’s
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Does anybody else remember the Honda CRX car from the 80’s. Got 50
mpg and wasn’t any smaller then these little cars I see today.
I had one with 130k ( when cars didn’t last like today ) and still was getting 45 mpg.

what happened to that “ technology”
 

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Does anybody else remember the Honda CRX car from the 80’s. Got 50
mpg
saw one just the other day. I'm not sure how it wasn't shedding body parts but it was making tracks on 495.

what happened to that “ technology”
air bags, noise abatement, entertainment systems, more air bags, and automatic transmissions witih more than 4 ratios.

Reading up on EngineeringMike's posts about the A10. Talk about a million dollar solution to a 3000 dollar problem. How many billions of money and man hours has gone into this nonsense of automatic transmissions? Krst on a cracker, what a pointless endeavor for 50 years.
 

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Does anybody else remember the Honda CRX car from the 80’s. Got 50
mpg and wasn’t any smaller then these little cars I see today.
I had one with 130k ( when cars didn’t last like today ) and still was getting 45 mpg.

what happened to that “ technology”
I don’t know but the 1985 5.0 HO had a whopping 210 HP and everyone was excited about that…..
Now we have 480/500+ factory HP and a bunch of whining…..
 

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I didn't even realize you responded to me, i thought you just quoted me.

So why can't I buy a new TDI, or get a Diesel option for my Bronco?
Because Americans are not fond of diesels and never have been, we don't like them and associate them with big smoke blowing semi trucks. VW almost broke into the US market and made us like diesels, the dieselgate scandal scared everyone off. Contrary to what you hear in this eco-chamber of a website, people want clean cars. The primary complaint with diesels is that they are dirty.

Ford doesn't sell a diesel Bronco because nobody wants it. There is no deeper meaning.

Why do we need the complicated systems? Reduced power/economy/reliability for what, tailpipe emissions? As long as it's not coal rolling, who's hurt?

Because you don't have a personal right to pollute the air, just because you can't see the emissions does not mean they don't exist. Asbestos seems like a miracle material, people felt fine for decades after working with it until they started dropping like flies. Emissions from engines are linked to cancer, birth defects, inflammatory diseases, and are known to be detrimental to the environment. There is evidence backed peer reviewed research to support these assertions. This is not my opinion.

And who got hurt from that? Unlike a Tesla that spontaneously combusts, I know of no one who get hurt from diesels. They didn't deserve to be crucified, Mike, and they should have fought back rather than bow and submit.

Who got hurt? Everyone got hurt, you got hurt, VW decided that the health and wellbeing of the entire world was not worth the money they'd have to spend to fix their mistake. Like I said before, just because you personally do not understand the long terms effects of exposure to unregulated emissions from IC motors does not stand as evidence that the risk isn't real. High smog areas see higher than average instances of cancer and all the items I listed above. This isn't a matter of opinion.

Decades ago textile mills dumped poisonous waste into our water supplies, decimating ecosystems and putting toxic materials into our water. We are STILL working to remove them, PFAS are giving people caner to this day, they don't break down and don't go away. These chemicals were dumped into the environment by Dupont and they have still not paid the price. At the time it seemed fine, nobody was getting hurt so who cares? This is what VW did with dieselgate, they fucked us.

I trust a dieselgate TDI more than I would ever an EV
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I don’t know but the 1985 5.0 HO had a whopping 210 HP and everyone was excited about that…..
Now we have 480/500+ factory HP and a bunch of whining…..
I remember my 1983 had 175 and was shocked when they announced the 210 HP was coming out.
Move forward It was also funny when my 2013 non turbo 4cyl Accord was 187 HP :)
 

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Going after auto manufacturers and aftermarket companies is just low hanging fruit for the EPA, because they have no idea how to fix, nor the resources to go after the industries that actually cause the vast majority of the polution. Manufacturing, Electricity production, and Agriculture. All of transportation combined (Planes, boats, passenger vehicles, commercial trucking, etc) only contributes 15% of Global emissions.
 

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Does anybody else remember the Honda CRX car from the 80’s. Got 50
mpg and wasn’t any smaller then these little cars I see today.
I had one with 130k ( when cars didn’t last like today ) and still was getting 45 mpg.

what happened to that “ technology”
I owned one. Bought it new: 1987 CRX HF (the high mpg model) 5 speed manual transmission. There were three models: the regular CRX, the CRX HF that I had with a smaller more fuel efficient engine, and the sporty CRX Si which was the performance model. The HF had a 1.3 liter engine and the other two had 1.5 liter engines with the Si 1.5 liter sporting fuel injection and several horsepower upgrades.

Mine lasted 270k miles when I sold it to its next owner. By then it was fairly gone and the plastic body panels had hardened brittle in the Texas sun after all those years... I have no idea how one could survive until today unless it has always been stored protected inside. Most of the body was lightweight plastic.

My CRX HF was EPA rated 53 mpg on the hwy and I actually got that multiple times on long trips when driving 55-60ish mph just out of curiosity to see how high it could really get. Normal hwy driving at 70 it got 48 mpg every time. In town mileage was usually an honest 42; sometimes a little less, but never below 40 unless I played hard with it. It had no power though - if I was going up a minor hill or incline on the hwy I could choose to keep it in 5th gear or have A/C, but not both... It had NO power in 5th gear LOL. To keep the A/C on I had to downshift to 4th gear going up hills. The regular CRX and certainly the Si model were probably able to keep the A/C on, but got less mpg... I think the Si was rated at 35 mpg (?) but don't trust my memory. I think mine had 60hp and the Si had something over 90hp but cannot remember exactly.

As previously posted, that technology went out with several hundred added pounds of airbag and safety equipment now required by regulations. Mine weighed less than 1800 pounds and I could back up to its rear bumper, squat down to grab it behind me, and lift it up off the ground. I can't do that with this Mustang LOL.
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