What did you do to your S550 Mustang today?!

[Bit_the_Bullitt]

Called Michelin about their Pilot 4S tires the car came with. The manufacturer's warranty is void if it is OEM equipment (which in itself is bull). If staggered set, which the Bullitt came with halves the warranty (if they were new) from 30k to 15k miles anyway.

So after 25k miles and couple of the tires worn into the belting (noticed at tire swap, hence why I'm still on winters), I'm shopping for new. Kind of wanted to avoid Michelin due to this, but Costco has a deal for all-season Pilots for $1200 with install, which is about $200-300 cheaper than I've found tire rack etc.

Therefore probably gonna put all seasons on and keep the winters for only the harshest portions of winter Dec-Feb....

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[GTP]

Called Michelin about their Pilot 4S tires the car came with. The manufacturer's warranty is void if it is OEM equipment (which in itself is bull). If staggered set, which the Bullitt came with halves the warranty (if they were new) from 30k to 15k miles anyway.

So after 25k miles and couple of the tires worn into the belting (noticed at tire swap, hence why I'm still on winters), I'm shopping for new. Kind of wanted to avoid Michelin due to this, but Costco has a deal for all-season Pilots for $1200 with install, which is about $200-300 cheaper than I've found tire rack etc.

Therefore probably gonna put all seasons on and keep the winters for only the harshest portions of winter Dec-Feb....

You know, if your car is a daily, and no track days, then all seasons are a great choice IMO. I do road course days to help me "behave" on the street. But A/S tires make it easier to get the rear end to slide a little every once in a while.

Looks like Michelin and Continental are still top choices for A/S tires.

 

[KingKona]

Called Michelin about their Pilot 4S tires the car came with. The manufacturer's warranty is void if it is OEM equipment (which in itself is bull). If staggered set, which the Bullitt came with halves the warranty (if they were new) from 30k to 15k miles anyway.

So after 25k miles and couple of the tires worn into the belting (noticed at tire swap, hence why I'm still on winters), I'm shopping for new. Kind of wanted to avoid Michelin due to this, but Costco has a deal for all-season Pilots for $1200 with install, which is about $200-300 cheaper than I've found tire rack etc.

Therefore probably gonna put all seasons on and keep the winters for only the harshest portions of winter Dec-Feb....

Are you complaining about the MPS4s "only" lasting 20K miles?

They're Max Performance Summer Only tires, that's what they do. You get amazing grip & performance, but they're cashed at 20K or so miles, driving style dependent.

You chuck some all-season tires on your car and your handling, braking and acceleration will take a hit.

The old Pirelli MPS tires lasted 8K-10K miles, we've got it good now.

 

[Naked5.0]

Banged out the Wheels, Vents and Side vinyl. Now on to anodizing the rims, candy red.

 

[PUNISHER7772]

I thought putting lithium under the hood was a no no because of the heat. Everyone I have talked to only recommend AGM. Is that incorrect?

I know there are people on here that have run them over a year without issues, I think one or two did mention heat issues but also had the ATX30-HD which does sit higher in the battery box but is also larger in general. I have put a couple hundred miles on since install but it's hasn't been really warm yet either. I think the biggest issue with lithium is just don't overcharge them. I think the main reason people use AGM is price although not a lot and just fear of hearsay on the internet.

 

[Scooter MGee]

I know there are people on here that have run them over a year without issues, I think one or two did mention heat issues but also had the ATX30-HD which does sit higher in the battery box but is also larger in general. I have put a couple hundred miles on since install but it's hasn't been really warm yet either. I think the biggest issue with lithium is just don't overcharge them. I think the main reason people use AGM is price although not a lot and just fear of hearsay on the internet.

I have also read you have to disable the BMS with Forscan as it does not play well with Li batteries.

 

[Bit_the_Bullitt]

You know, if your car is a daily, and no track days, then all seasons are a great choice IMO. I do road course days to help me "behave" on the street. But A/S tires make it easier to get the rear end to slide a little every once in a while.

Looks like Michelin and Continental are still top choices for A/S tires.

Yup, I think that's what I'm gonna do, go with A/S for the majority of the year. I've done 2 track events/open track in them, so I guess they "lasted," but still, dang.

Are you complaining about the MPS4s "only" lasting 20K miles?

They're Max Performance Summer Only tires, that's what they do. You get amazing grip & performance, but they're cashed at 20K or so miles, driving style dependent.

You chuck some all-season tires on your car and your handling, braking and acceleration will take a hit.

The old Pirelli MPS tires lasted 8K-10K miles, we've got it good now.

I mean, sure, I wasn't sure what I was getting into. But at the same time, they had 2 fairly light track days in them, nothing too crazy. I'm more disappointed in Michelin's response that no warranty on OEM. I'm guessing Ford negotiates crazy discounts for the tires in exchange of no warranty.

I do like to drive spiritedly, but with 2 track days in 2 years, I think the Pilot 4s is just an overkill to get again. I doubt that for non-at-the-cutting-edge driving, all season Pilots will be great also.
They are still described as "Ultra High Performance" A/S tires, I think the performance won't diminish to a point I'll notice off track.

 

[KingKona]

I mean, sure, I wasn't sure what I was getting into. But at the same time, they had 2 fairly light track days in them, nothing too crazy. I'm more disappointed in Michelin's response that no warranty on OEM.

What warranty issue is there with the tires?

 

[Gnatsum21]

Look maw, more stripes!

 

[JohnnyGT]

These Nittos kinda suck. Spin show off the line in first. Kick out and more spinning shifting to 2nd. Day and night better than the OEM junk. Stiffer sidewalls than the Indy 500s, but I want to get the Indys back on sooner than later.

I thought they do better with higher road temps, nope.

 

[BabyDoc1012]

Yup, I think that's what I'm gonna do, go with A/S for the majority of the year. I've done 2 track events/open track in them, so I guess they "lasted," but still, dang.



I mean, sure, I wasn't sure what I was getting into. But at the same time, they had 2 fairly light track days in them, nothing too crazy. I'm more disappointed in Michelin's response that no warranty on OEM. I'm guessing Ford negotiates crazy discounts for the tires in exchange of no warranty.

I do like to drive spiritedly, but with 2 track days in 2 years, I think the Pilot 4s is just an overkill to get again. I doubt that for non-at-the-cutting-edge driving, all season Pilots will be great also.
They are still described as "Ultra High Performance" A/S tires, I think the performance won't diminish to a point I'll notice off track.

Michelin does provide the warranty for OEM, because they are covered under the factory warranty. I don’t think any tire manufacturer warranties OEM tires. Had an issue with the tires on my wife’s Subaru Ascent with uneven wear at about 12k. The dealer replaced them under warranty.

 

[GT Pony]

Called Michelin about their Pilot 4S tires the car came with. The manufacturer's warranty is void if it is OEM equipment (which in itself is bull). If staggered set, which the Bullitt came with halves the warranty (if they were new) from 30k to 15k miles anyway.

As someone else mentioned, the OEM tire warranty is covered through the car manufacturer's tire warranty. Pretty much the same with all car manufacturers. You should have got a pamphlet on the tire warranty, and if not it can be found on Ford's website for your car.

I can see why a tire manufacturer would cut the warranty duration on tires that can't be rotated - ie, the staggered setup.

So after 25k miles and couple of the tires worn into the belting (noticed at tire swap, hence why I'm still on winters),

Didn't you have an alignment issue? And it could also be that the Bullitt comes with a more aggressive track type of alignment, which will wear out the inside edges faster.

 

[Modulom4]

Called Michelin about their Pilot 4S tires the car came with. The manufacturer's warranty is void if it is OEM equipment (which in itself is bull). If staggered set, which the Bullitt came with halves the warranty (if they were new) from 30k to 15k miles anyway.

So after 25k miles and couple of the tires worn into the belting (noticed at tire swap, hence why I'm still on winters), I'm shopping for new. Kind of wanted to avoid Michelin due to this, but Costco has a deal for all-season Pilots for $1200 with install, which is about $200-300 cheaper than I've found tire rack etc.

Therefore probably gonna put all seasons on and keep the winters for only the harshest portions of winter Dec-Feb....

I'm sorry but can't beat Michelin

 

[Gnatsum21]

These Nittos kinda suck. Spin show off the line in first. Kick out and more spinning shifting to 2nd. Day and night better than the OEM junk. Stiffer sidewalls than the Indy 500s, but I want to get the Indys back on sooner than later.

I thought they do better with higher road temps, nope.

I wont get Nittos again either.

 

[Doolin64]

My water deionizer got delivered so I can spot free wash my black beauty.

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