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The locking nuts shown in the picture above are an utter crap. Sooner or later (actually, rather sooner than later) the key will break, and you'll be left with four wheel nuts you won't be able to remove. And Ford won't be able to supply a new matching key.
Don't ask me how I know. :blush:
There are good locking nuts out there, but this particular design isn't among them.
Here in the states, they are McGard wheel locks. When I bought my 2017 GT, they were actually in a pouch in the spare tire compartment, had a little tag in there that had the info on how to order a replacement key directly from McGard. If you don't have that tag, not sure what to do then, although pretty sure the lock itself has a number on it, my guess is you could probably cross reference with McGard.

I actually just responded to another post earlier this week that said these were junk, figure I might as well post the same response here as I did there describing my experience with McGard locks:

I have never had issues with McGard wheel locks. I put them on my first truck back in 1989 and have used a set on every vehicle I have owned since, even on every vehicle my wife has owned since I have known her. (Hell, even my ex-wife's vehicles when I knew her.) Just did the math, 14 vehicles total, never had an issue with any of them. I had a set on my old 2017 GT, my current 2020 GT, and my 2018 F-150, all those get torqued to 150, never an issue. Of course, I never go near them with an impact gun, hand tools only, but then I don't break any lug nut loose with an impact.

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Hey Dude,
Would you make me 4 sets?
Considering I am in the U.K. I don’t think that is practical ... lol

They are just the 21mm silicon nut caps from eBay, shortened to suit the lump in the middle of the euro style locking nut.

I simply pushed a nut up the back of them to use as a trimming (then sanding) guide.

I think they were less than £5 for a set of 20 and then about 20 mins work to make four locking bolt covers :like:

Here in the states, they are McGard wheel locks. When I bought my 2017 GT, they were actually in a pouch in the spare tire compartment, had a little tag in there that had the info on how to order a replacement key directly from McGard. If you don't have that tag, not sure what to do then, although pretty sure the lock itself has a number on it, my guess is you could probably cross reference with McGard.

I actually just responded to another post earlier this week that said these were junk, figure I might as well post the same response here as I did there describing my experience with McGard locks:

I have never had issues with McGard wheel locks. I put them on my first truck back in 1989 and have used a set on every vehicle I have owned since, even on every vehicle my wife has owned since I have known her. (Hell, even my ex-wife's vehicles when I knew her.) Just did the math, 14 vehicles total, never had an issue with any of them. I had a set on my old 2017 GT, my current 2020 GT, and my 2018 F-150, all those get torqued to 150, never an issue. Of course, I never go near them with an impact gun, hand tools only, but then I don't break any lug nut loose with an impact.

Doug
Yeah I have no issue with McGards either :like:

Here’s the set that have lived on my daily driver Sportage for nine years (I think are the ‘ultra’s’ as they have the hardened rotating collar) :

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Admittedly the Kia doesn’t get 150 lb/ft and I keep them under rubber caps but still, I don’t think that’s bad for nine U.K. winters / servicing / rotation etc :like:

The euro Mustang lockers are also McGards, just a different design to what you guys get :like:

WD :like:
 

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Enhanced security work! I was removing the side led lights I had installed on the 2020 GT I had and shit I got scared alarm when off out of know where here is the alarm

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Is this the Mustang you're talking about here? If so why are you only torqueing to half the Ford spec of 150ft lbs?
No, The vehicle, I have it is 75 ft lp. I have not bought a mustang yet.( looking for one the way I want it, and why I am here asking questions before I pull trigger) But Again, my 357 v8 main studs and head studs , nuts don't back off, so. the member that was worried about the lube causing the locking lug to back off.
Can you link the wheel lug nut stud spec at 150 ft lp. that seems mighty high for a wheel stud, The vehicle I used as an example has 14mm lug studs, 150 ft lp will snap them all off.
 

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Trust me

the anti jacking works
Ford has had that part down for at least a dozen years.

It's good for more than curbing certain wheel theft opportunities . . . it'd be pretty tough to cut the converters off even an unlowered Mustang without lifting it.


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No, The vehicle, I have it is 75 ft lp. I have not bought a mustang yet.( looking for one the way I want it, and why I am here asking questions before I pull trigger) But Again, my 357 v8 main studs and head studs , nuts don't back off, so. the member that was worried about the lube causing the locking lug to back off.
Lubricating wheel studs and/or lug nuts causes excessive tensile forces to be developed in the studs. This would be very much like trying to use TTY fasteners without the strict angular control on tightening where you could pull the studs well into plastic behavior.

Eventually the studs can and will fail in service. Been there (on the track, from studs that were 'dry' but simply overtightened). So in my book, applying full lug nut torque on lubricated stud threads just made them no good even as "one time use" parts.


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Ford has had that part down for at least a dozen years.

It's good for more than curbing certain wheel theft opportunities . . . it'd be pretty tough to cut the converters off even an unlowered Mustang without lifting it.


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I appreciate it, because I had 3k worth or tires/rims. I was hesitant, but I never knew it had jacking alarm, I knew when I reach inside it goes off, did that once. for a 400 dollar package, im perfectly content rebuying that package every time.
 

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I appreciate it, because I had 3k worth or tires/rims. I was hesitant, but I never knew it had jacking alarm, I knew when I reach inside it goes off, did that once. for a 400 dollar package, im perfectly content rebuying that package every time.
I've been caught out by this more times than I care to count. When you start swapping tire sets for track days and back again, or bleeding the brakes between events, the number of opportunities to get bit by this goes way up over what the average owner is ever likely to run into.


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The locking nuts shown in the picture above are an utter crap. Sooner or later (actually, rather sooner than later) the key will break, and you'll be left with four wheel nuts you won't be able to remove. And Ford won't be able to supply a new matching key.
Don't ask me how I know. :blush:
There are good locking nuts out there, but this particular design isn't among them.
The photo of the key looks like McGard locks. I've never had problems with McGard locks on my other cars, though I admit my other cars are torqued only to 80 ft/lb, not 150 as required on the Mustang.
 
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The photo of the key looks like McGard locks. I've never had problems with McGard locks on my other cars, though I admit my other cars are torqued only to 80 ft/lb, not 150 as required on the Mustang.
Welp, it is 150 foot pounds. color me surprised .
That is a lot to ask from a 14mmx1.5 stud.
I wonder how many cycles before they snap. or are at risk of it.
 

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First I went to the local dealership and asked them for a replacement key. They said: no can do, these locking nut sets are not linked to your VIN and do not have a code. But they agreed to try and remove them. I think they welded a nut to the lock and used that. Then I replaced them with normal nuts.

The problem is, you see the star-like groove in the nut, which is unique to each set, and which is actually what makes it a locking nut? The key has the same pattern in reverse, i.e. an internal "wall" - for lack of a better word - of the same shape. This wall is very thin. As thin as the groove in the nut, obviously. When you loosen or tighten the nut, this thin, wavy wall takes all the force. And it can only take it so many times before it breaks.
It's really a very fragile design.
Alot of garages have a master key set. Literally hundreds of keys in a kit. One of them will fit. You can actually buy it on Amazon.
 

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Welp, it is 150 foot pounds. color me surprised .
That is a lot to ask from a 14mmx1.5 stud.
I wonder how many cycles before they snap. or are at risk of it.
I believe the F-150 is the same stud size and also is listed at 150 ft/lbs. I guess if it's strong enough for the 1/2 ton pickup it should be ok on a Mustang.
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