This reminds me of an old joke. A guy was getting fed up with having his car broken in and his stereo stolen. So one day he stuck a note on the car that read, "this car doesn't have a stereo". The next day his car is missing, and in its place he finds a note, "that's OK, we'll install one".
Wow!!! Hahhawell my alarm tripped yesterday under real world conditions! I was driving home with windows open and a large bumble bee flew into the stang. It was trying to get out the back window and kept crawling on the rear deck while I was driving. I was hoping it would find a way out. When I got home I couldn't find it. I assumed it flew out on its own. I even kept the windows down for an hour just to be sure. I eventually closed the windows and locked up the car for the night. About an hour later my alarm goes off and the Ford App sends me an alert. Apparently the bee was hiding on me and set off the alarmAt least i know it works. The bee was released unharmed to carry on....
True for any anti-theft method. The idea is to slow them down. If your car has a lock over the OBD2 port (and this is the method they intended to use to start it up), they are more likely to go to another car. Of course, there's also they risk they break your car even worse trying to get through the anti-theft mechanisms. Here's where maybe a hidden and totally random kill switch is superior. Since mine is a manual, has no remote-start feature nor need, a hidden kill switch is feasible. Probably kill the fuel pump, so f'er can start it up, but by the time he starts to try to move, it'll die ;)Not going to lie, I did a bit of research on OBD2 port locks when I bought my Bronco (first keyless push button start vehicle I owned other than my Ducati Multistrada lol)..
From what I can tell, they're no more effective than "security" screws manufacturers use to try and stop people from repairing their electronics; they only work if someone doesn't know how to remove them. In most cases, they're simply a socket with some pins in the lip it to engage the holes in the flush covers for the bolts.
For now they're obscure/rare enough they would likely thwart a clueless thief, but from what I can tell, all you would need to use to remove the covers is:
To ascertain if it's even effective at all? .... They could literally make all cars theft-proof with NFC encryption keys, but they cannot, due to federal regulations making OBD2 data mandatorily non-encrypted. Did you know that? If not, your reply is unnecessary in a post requesting technically valid info.
BTW, you don’t need anything fancy to RF proof your keyfob. You can simply use aluminum foil. Just don’t get it confused with the takeout dinner packaging and throw it in the trash…..mistakenly.
yep, I have done that.
Unique encrypted RF frequencies between the BCM & FOB IIRC. Nothing prevents somebody from capturing that frequency however.
The keys have a microprocessor inside and they respond to a challenge sent by the car. That's why keys needs to be paired with a diagnostic tool (or manually by the owner but that requires both original keys). Both car and keys need to share the same key material.
That makes sense. I saw a video of some news reporters demonstrating stealing an edge with a system that had two devices one held by the guy at the car handle and the other by the partner who walked up behind the owner as she walked away from the car. The handshake must have been done through the devices the thieves had, and from a reasonable distance away from the vehicle. At the end of the day however it works.... I decided that the convivence intelligent access, is not worth the vulnerability to me. Not to mention its annoying as hell having the car lock and unlock it's self when you hand wash it.
The relay attack only works if one the thieves is in close proximity to you because at the end of the day it's the access to the key material that counts and that doesn't escape the car keys micro.
