Yeah that’s what I said too. I said the NA manual can shock the wheels.
What can happen if you try to ease into the throttle when trying to drift. Understeer rather than oversteer. Because of weight transfer. X hp NA will do you much better than same X hp Turbo. Now this is my hypotheses, never actually got to drive two exact cars with exact hp one being turbo and one being NA.
Ahh no. Under vs Over is a matter of traction. Drive both cars at precisely the RPM range that corresponds to 350ft/lb of engine torque (assumes rest of drive line is identical and therefore wheel torque is also identical) and they will behave the same. You may need to ballast the cars to likewise get the weight balance to match up.
Not true. If you don't have enough torque to overcome mass, you can't achieve adequate speed for horsepower to matter. Torque is why turbo diesel trucks run 10s.
Peak Acceleration always occurs at peak power. End of story.
True. But, it may take far longer to achieve max acceleration without adequate torque to overcome mass. That's why speedsters on the salt flats need a push to get up to an adequate speed.
They also run around a 2.50:1 ring and pinion, & powerglide transmissions, with the torque converter removed. That's why they need a push.
No, nope, no sir. Peak acceleration occurs at peak engine torque in a given gear. Haven't I explained this to you multiple times before in other threads? The reason we stay in a given gear long enough to reach peak hp, and then wait to shift, is because the wheel torque with the gear multiplication is higher at the high rpm than the wheel torque at the next gear up. This is because the multiplication due to gearing is higher than the drop in corresponding torque in the engine at high rpms.
It does not. Peak acceleration occurs at peak power. If your peak torque happens at 4k and your peak power at 7k you're saying you're not accelerating from 4-7k? Come on now.
I feel like hes got alot of numbers and explains himself really well, but you are very good at say nuh uh. This is an equal fight. Ding Ding.
So they have no torque, hence they can't move. My point is you need both horsepower and torque.
wait, what? Are you saying land speed racers have no torque? Have you looked at the kind of engines they run? They need a push because they are geared so freaking tall that they would fry the clutch on rollout slipping it and slipping it forever before they were up to minimum speed that the clutch could be engaged. Try launching a 2-stroke 125cc race bike some time. They replace the clutch plates all the damn time because to launch one of these things they have to put 9000 on the tach and keep it there while slipping the bajeezus out the clutch so the RPMs (and available torque) doesn't crash to nothing. LSR vehicles have a similar dynamic but it's an artifact of gearing and not lack of torque.
Yes, Your are 100% correct for ground vehicles where the power is transferred to wheels.
No man, you're not listening or simply not comprehending what I am saying (probably the latter). Of course the car is accelerating as long as the velocity is changing. But the rate of change of acceleration, called "jerk", is changing, and it follows the engine torque curve, and is affected by friction and wind resistance. Jerk is actually decreasing as engine torque drops. In other words, the rate of acceleration reduces as engine torque reduces.
