Is it now between Bernie and Bloomberg?

[Bikeman315]

I'm the good looking one.....

Well we certainly know who has good taste in woman.......

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[Docscurlock]

Well we certainly know who has good taste in woman.......

Is that Jen on Jen?

 

[IPOGT]

Please, just fix the healthcare system. The insurance rates are totally unreasonable.
I'd think about a national healthcare subsidy for citizens only, combined with total immigration reform and completely secure borders and start there.

 

[lacanteen]

Looks like Biden is back from the dead, for now. Somehow I think many Trump supporters are boosting Bernie in the primaries setting up a showdown at the convention. The DNC is really screwed this election cycle. They'll be lucky to hold onto the House. Warren is circling the drain, can she throw her support to Bernie? Bloomberg is struggling to be relevant.

Idea! Make the DNC convention pay-per-view!

 

[watisthis]

Biden early victories are still worrying if you're looking to oust Trump. Biden has historically been terrible on presidential campaigns and that has been no different this time around. A week ago his campaign looked dead. What did he do to revive it? Nothing, he got 1 key endorsements, won SC on the back of said endorsements and didn't do as well as expected there, and his campaign got rid of two of his biggest rivals for votes. He looks more like the anti-sanders forces coming together and choosing him by default than by exciting voters to actually vote for him.

What does Biden's candidacy stand for? Aside from not being sanders and not too scary for the less progressives? A return to pre trump times? If Biden can't find a more compelling message in the coming months then he's going to have to hope that another external act happens to boost his chances... like a recession.

For the last few decades the only times democrats have won the White House was with an outsider candidate. See: Carter, Clinton, and Obama as they all billed themselves so.

Good thing the Democrats still haven't learned their lesson. Pathetic party and pathetic progressive voters not showing up yet once again.

 

[IPOGT]

Please, just fix the healthcare system. The insurance rates are totally unreasonable.
I'd think about a national healthcare subsidy for citizens only, combined with total immigration reform and completely secure borders and start there.

And while they're fixing healthcare, I call on them to immediately outlaw prescription drug television advertising. It is an insulting pointless waste of money that could well be spent lowering drug prices.

 

[Bikeman315]

So last night was certainly interesting. Joe has risen from the ashes. Maybe the third time will be the charm.

Here's my take. Bloomberg will drop out and throw his support to Biden. He got in because of a weak Biden so it only makes sense for him to get out now. Warren's time is done. Bernie makes a deal for VP and she drops out too. So now we have Bernie and Joe. Based on last night's primaries Bernie failed in getting out the voter numbers he says will be needed to beat Trump. So that leaves Joe. His pick for VP becomes critical. Amy will get him votes in the Midwest, Kamala could help in the West. A woman on the ticket would give Republican moderates a reason to switch.

This is going to be fun.

 

[Bikeman315]

And while they're fixing healthcare, I call on them to immediately outlaw prescription drug television advertising. It is an insulting pointless waste of money that could well be spent lowering drug prices.

Agreed, I cannot hit the skip button fast enough when these come on. Although I do find the "side effects" part interesting. Take this drug and you could die. Great messaging.

 

[Docscurlock]

And while they're fixing healthcare, I call on them to immediately outlaw prescription drug television advertising. It is an insulting pointless waste of money that could well be spent lowering drug prices.

I agree that prescription drug prices are too expensive but they are private companies selling a product. We have to be careful which rabbit holes we go down as a nation. Let's shoot for some tort reform and see what that fixes as far as costs.

 

[Bikeman315]

I agree that prescription drug prices are too expensive but they are private companies selling a product. We have to be careful which rabbit holes we go down as a nation. Let's shoot for some tort reform and see what that fixes as far as costs.

The same argument could have been used on the tobacco industry but that didn't stop the government from banning cigarette advertising. IMHO, prescription of not, drugs are drugs and shouldn't be advertised on TV like candy. But you know me. All about middle ground. How about this. Lower your prices or risk having your advertising banned. Tit for tat. Everyone wins.

 

[Docscurlock]

Looks like Biden is back from the dead, for now.

!

More like the Walking Dead. He can hardly remember which day it is.

 

[Docscurlock]

The same argument could have been used on the tobacco industry but that didn't stop the government from banning cigarette advertising. IMHO, prescription of not, drugs are drugs and shouldn't be advertised on TV like candy. But you know me. All about middle ground. How about this. Lower your prices or risk having your advertising banned. Tit for tat. Everyone wins.

I am not saying I appreciate the advertising but if we start restricting rights, where do we stop?

 

[Bikeman315]

I am not saying I appreciate the advertising but if we start restricting rights, where do we stop?

I hear you, but having certain rights restricted is part of living in a civilized world. We are human beings not animals. I think we have done a fairly good job over the past 2000+ years in determining what is and what isn't good for us. Our founding fathers also did a pretty good job in setting up our democracy 244 years ago. But to answer your question we stop when there is legitimate reason to do so. I do agree that certain restrictions are getting a little out of hand (yeah, those crazy lefties ) but overall I think we are doing OK.

 

[shogun32]

I agree that prescription drug prices are too expensive but they are private companies selling a product.

True but their pricing isn't remotely similar between comparable 1st world countries. The free market solution to that would be reverse importation - buy low sell high and poof there goes the preposterous USA pricing. But the FDA (and Congress) was bribed to expressly prevent such a thing. Hell, the gov't prosecutes people who bring college textbooks back from overseas. Same damn book, same damn printing but bought overseas at rational prices.

The US medical system at all levels is so thoroughly corrupted BECAUSE of gov't interference and implicit (if not explicit) price fixing. The same damn drug is a couple dollars on one side, but $5000 just 10 miles away on the 'wrong' side of the Mexico/US border. How the hell does that happen? Is the drug company losing 4980 dollars on every vial sold to Mexico outlets? Nope! How is it I can fly to Japan, rent a recovery hotel room for a week or two and pay full boat for the surgery and come out many thousands ahead than if I had done the same procedure at Inova 5 miles from my house?

If I go to the Surgery Center of Omaha they've got the prices posted on the door. They are FIXED for EVERYONE who darkens their door. How come when I have the EXACT same procedure done by Inova not only can they not tell me how much the total cost will be, they REFUSE to quote me a firm, fixed price? How is it that the Surgery Center is dramatically better than so-called comparable tier-1 hospitals where it concerns staph infections, surgery mistakes, and other errors in execution? Because they have to EAT it instead of happily charging you for their own f'kup.

When the hospital 'gives' you a knee brace that might cost $40 at CVS, why does it show up as a $200 charge? Isn't the hospital buying in bulk or at the very least sourcing it from the same distributor? If the corner CVS which hardly moves any units can make a profit on $40, what's the justification for 5x the price?

 

[Docscurlock]

But to answer your question we stop when there is legitimate reason to do so.

well, we can only hope that the decision to stop is made by 2 level headed, good taste in women individuals like ourselves. The world has seen many examples of "good intentions" run amok. That has caused a lot of death and misery in this world.

In fact, I think the two of us should be in charge of everything that is "right and wrong" in this country, I am open to negotiations. Serious steps to lower healthcare for common sense immigration, reasonable social safety nets for mandatory drug testing for people on state and federal aid etc.

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