F-150 Manifold Testing/Journey

[AlmostFamous]

ROFL! nailed it. Welp. Close up this thread my friends nothing more to see here!

Cool story bro......

There’s debating and there’s making yourself look like an ass, the latter of which you definitely accomplished.

Sponsored

 

[Notagain]

Some peoples feelings get hurt? Sorry LOL

 

[VooDooDaddy]

Dont you clowns want the down low torque of tje F150 mani?

Know what warms the tires from a dig?

Torque down low!

Proof you are an idiot.

But but butt I want an F150 mani for the Torque but dont need the Torque all in the same breath above.

Psst you need to buy a damn Tesla and leave the combustion engines for the rest of us LOL!

WTF are you talking about...? Seriously. Exactly how did you infer from my comments that 'I want torque but I don't need torque'? Where exactly did I say that?

I didn't you phucking fool. Christ-on-a-bike..., just how the hell do you manage to interpret other people's comments and twist them into what you want to believe they said?

 

[VooDooDaddy]

Most GM or Dodge setups dont rev to 8K rpm.... LOL.

Neither do I when I am driving MY 2016 GT.

The coyote is a small cube engine it NEEDs a big rpm window to work well.

Or, just maybe the F-150 manifold will allow my car to work better in the RPM window in which I drive it? And ALL of the dyno data confirms this.

But hey maybe youd like to explain to me how putting a shit intake mani on a small cube high revving F1 or Indy engine is an excellent idea next?

When exactly did I mention a "high-revving F1 or Indy engine"? Oh, that's right..., I didn't.

 

[VooDooDaddy]

This seems akin to asking your hot girlfriend to take off her bikini and please put on a one piece.

Your comment is a complete non-sequitur.

 

[VooDooDaddy]

The VMP mani shootout was a joke.

Exactly how was the VMP manifold shoot-out a "joke"? How?

Based on what criteria?

How exactly was their shoot-out not worthy of consideration?

Please bring forth the facts and data that you used to support your "joke" opinion?

 

[Notagain]

Exactly how was the VMP manifold shoot-out a "joke"? How?

Based on what criteria?

How exactly was their shoot-out not worthy of consideration?

Please bring forth the facts and data that you used to support your "joke" opinion?

VMP tested a ported Mani vs an UNPORTED CJ mani.

Stock 18 vs. UNPORTED CJ the CJ wins HP and torque.

Ported 18 vs STOCK CJ the Ported 18 made .08 more HP and less that 4 more torque.

A PORTED CJ would make more than a ported 18 if we want to actually compare apples to apples.

2nd of all EACH intake mani MUST have the VCT tuned per manifold. VCT is not the same on say a F150 intake Mani vs a CJ they are 2 vastly different manifolds amd designs.

CJ mani is the king of all Coyote Manifolds PERIOD. But yes its expensive.

CJ 1st then 18 mani.

Tune will make or break ANY setup too so believe what you want.

My 2016 with an AED Tune on E85 with a CJ was a damn riot to drive and Shaun at AED spent a ton of time R&D on the CJ mani. He damn well has the CJ tunes nailed down so they dont lose any ottom end contrary to popular belief the CJ gives up nothing on the bottom end if the tune and VCT is dialed in.

So yes the VMP tune was a joke comparing a ported 2018 vs a stock unported CJ. Also show me where VMP tunes in each manifold. IIRC it was intake manifold swaps only the tune was never touched for any of the setups thus it could be spot on for a F150 mani but blow balls for a CJ for the reasons I mentioned above. The F150 and CJ are vastly different designs!

 

[VooDooDaddy]

VMP tested a ported Mani vs an UNPORTED CJ mani.

Stock 18 vs. UNPORTED CJ the CJ wins HP and torque.

Ported 18 vs STOCK CJ the Ported 18 made .08 more HP and less that 4 more torque.

A PORTED CJ would make more than a ported 18 if we want to actually compare apples to apples.

2nd of all EACH intake mani MUST have the VCT tuned per manifold. VCT is not the same on say a F150 intake Mani vs a CJ they are 2 vastly different manifolds amd designs.

CJ mani is the king of all Coyote Manifolds PERIOD. But yes its expensive.

CJ 1st then 18 mani.

Tune will make or break ANY setup too so believe what you want.

My 2016 with an AED Tune on E85 with a CJ was a damn riot to drive and Shaun at AED spent a ton of time R&D on the CJ mani. He damn well has the CJ tunes nailed down so they dont lose any ottom end contrary to popular belief the CJ gives up nothing on the bottom end if the tune and VCT is dialed in.

So yes the VMP tune was a joke comparing a ported 2018 vs a stock unported CJ. Also show me where VMP tunes in each manifold. IIRC it was intake manifold swaps only the tune was never touched for any of the setups thus it could be spot on for a F150 mani but blow balls for a CJ for the reasons I mentioned above. The F150 and CJ are vastly different designs!

I have to admit, you make some very valid points. Yes, the F-150 and CJ manifolds are vastly different, and truth be told, if I had the $$$ to part with, I would go with the CJ manifold. But alas, I wanted a nice torque jump with little to no outlay in cash, thus the F-150 manifold.

I agree with you completely when it comes to the tune. While I will admit I have little experience with tunes/tuners. My '16 GT is the first car I have ever had tuned, and LUND racing did a great job with my tune. My car pulls strong at every RPM, and my car runs, drives. accelerates, idles, and cruises perfectly. No surging, hesitating, rough idling, coughing, sputtering, or trouble starting..., not that anyone should expect anything less when buying a tune nowadays, regardless of the tuner.

Now, you made an assumption when stating that VMP did not adjust the tune between manifold swaps. I think your assumption is correct when you think of the time it would take to tune each manifold..., but that doesn't automatically mean your/my assumption is correct on this issue?

At the end of the day, if the CJ manifold accomplishes for you what you want, then good on you brother.

 

[ahl395]

Why do people care so much about what someone else does to their car

 

[Momogt26]

Why do people care so much about what someone else does to their car

I agree 100%

 

[VooDooDaddy]

Why do people care so much about what someone else does to their car

Well, at the end of the day none of us really do. This is just a form of cheap entertainment for people with first-world problems.

 

[Notagain]

Its not that I care about what other pople do its the misinformation and assumptions that kill me.

Like the bogus VMP intake mani shootout.......

 

[Dr.Pat]

Blah Blah Blah!

Dude why do you care so much about what other people do to their cars? Are you really so butthurt about people having different opinions that you're going to waste your time arguing on an internet forum about something you obviously dislike and doesn't apply to your car? You think the F150 manifold is junk...great...move on. You're not changing anyone's mind, so what's the point. Stop bitching and just be happy with your car, and let others do the same

 

[Notagain]

Dude why do you care so much about what other people do to their cars? Are you really so butthurt about people having different opinions that you're going to waste your time arguing on an internet forum about something you obviously dislike and doesn't apply to your car? You think the F150 manifold is junk...great...move on. You're not changing anyone's mind, so what's the point. Stop bitching and just be happy with your car, and let others do the same

LOL where did I say that what post number?

 

[kluke15]

so i gotta be honest i did this mod last year and have loved it. finally took my car to the strip and i do think its lacking on the top end. i have noticed that when you originally put on the f150 manifold you def notice that increase in low end but going back to stock i have to say that i dont really feel the loss of low end just the increase in top end again. i do think that for a daily that never sees the strip that its prob okay but i do honestly feel faster with the stock mani on again. it doesnt hit as hard in the low end but one downshift and you are out of that range where the f150 shines so the stock does seem to actually be faster.

Sponsored