F-150 Manifold Testing/Journey

[VooDooDaddy]

If you're racing stay with the GT mani.

Mustang_Lou, I know you agree with me on this one and I with you.

This is my whole point in recommending the lowly, truck manifold. Simply put, 99% of peeps on this board are not and will not be "racing" their STREET cars anytime soon.

Yet, the overwhelming majority of peeps on this board will say something to the effect of: "you're an idiot for using the truck manifold. Go with the CJ, GT350, Boss 302, or '18/'19 GT manifolds because our cars make the most power at 7,800 rpm..."

The fact that you, me, and the rest of us rarely..., and I mean rarely take our cars to 7,800 rpm because they are STREET cars is lost on the "wow factor" of seeing a sexy manifold under the hood, and the so-called bragging rights of a number printed on a dyno sheet.

Basically, the reason everyone likes to slam the lowly truck manifold is because it's not sexy, and doesn't produce bragging rights HP numbers (at unrealistic rpm) for a STREET car.

I don't need a dyno sheet to make me happy. I don't care what my engine bay looks like when the hood is open.

I want the most hp and TORQUE across the widest power-band where I use my car the most. Not at some stratospheric rpm where I rarely drive.

F-150 intake manifold, baby. F-150

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[Mustang_Lou]

I couldn't have said it better myself @VooDooDaddy … there's no option for a hundred "Likes" so I gave you one.

It does NOT out right die at 6000 rpm either like some are making out to believe.

The enjoyment of mid-range punch mostly EVERY time is greater than the enjoyment of 1,200 of top-end rpm 1% of the time.

If YOUR ratios are the other way around, all the power to you. Mine aren't and by far most drivers aren't either from every Mustang I've ever seen on the road.

 

[Momogt26]

I'm still tempted to give the 2018 f150 intake manifold a try I see vmp selling them as a kit with the imrc control harnesses.

 

[Remy_reign]

I'm still tempted to give the 2018 f150 intake manifold a try I see vmp selling them as a kit with the imrc control harnesses.

If you do this, let me know I'd like to see the numbers

 

[Notagain]

Id like to see an almighty F150 intake mani car race a Stock 18 mani car in town from a dig at a light and laugh when it gets stomped......

Itll only be worse out on open highway.

I still say the lack of torque can be fixed with gears or better tires, or better exhaust, or an e85 tune.

Lemme guess people rock and f150 mani on junk stock pzeros and act like OMG it pulls so much harder until 6k.

Find me an F150 mani vs an 18 mani or CJ that runs better times in the 1/8th.

Ill say 1/8th so people dont cry its not a fair comparison vs the 18 or CJ that will obviously destroy it on the back half of a 1/4 mile pass LOL.

 

[Notagain]

[QUOTE="VooDooDaddy]
I want the most hp and TORQUE across the widest power-band where I use my car the most. Not at some stratospheric rpm where I rarely drive.

F-150 intake manifold, baby. F-150[/QUOTE]

Such an awful contradiction has has never been uttered about the F150 ever before. Psst the F150 doesnt have a wide power band. A stock 18 mani would more power over a wider rpm window.

 

[AlmostFamous]

Id like to see an almighty F150 intake mani car race a Stock 18 mani car in town from a dig at a light and laugh when it gets stomped......

Itll only be worse out on open highway.

I still say the lack of torque can be fixed with gears or better tires, or better exhaust, or an e85 tune.

Lemme guess people rock and f150 mani on junk stock pzeros and act like OMG it pulls so much harder until 6k.

Find me an F150 mani vs an 18 mani or CJ that runs better times in the 1/8th.

Ill say 1/8th so people dont cry its not a fair comparison vs the 18 or CJ that will obviously destroy it on the back half of a 1/4 mile pass LOL.

I think the 2018 F150 would outperform the 2015-2017 GT manifold in the 1/4 mile. Wouldn’t be surprised if it made more power at every point in the powerband. But yes, even the improved 2018 F150 manifold would get crushed by the 2018 GT manifold. There’s multiple before and after dyno graphs of 2018 F150s who have swapped to the 2018 GT manifold. In every case, the difference in power after 5,500rpms is just too undeniable to overlook. Even though, I would be very interested if someone did a dyno with the 2018 F150 manifold.

 

[VooDooDaddy]

Find me an F150 mani vs an 18 mani or CJ that runs better times in the 1/8th.

Ill say 1/8th so people dont cry its not a fair comparison vs the 18 or CJ that will obviously destroy it on the back half of a 1/4 mile pass LOL.

My god..., you'd think these people were actually capable of doing some basic reading comprehension? Guess not...

HEY DUMMY..., we are NOT running a race in either an 1/8 mile track or a 1/4 mile track because we have STREET CARS that we drive on public roads.

When am I going to (on a public street) warm my tires by doing a burnout, and then stage my car, wait for the light to turn green and then hammer the throttle and keep it pegged (again, on a public street) for 1,320 feet?

The answer: NEVER

So your statements are irrelevant to say the least. Damn, why is this concept so hard for some peeps to understand.

IT'S A PHUCKING STREET CAR.

 

[VooDooDaddy]

Such an awful contradiction has has never been uttered about the F150 ever before. Psst the F150 doesnt have a wide power band. A stock 18 mani would more power over a wider rpm window.

PHUCK me running...

The level of stooopid on this topic is astounding!

Sorry, but you are completely ignoring the torque curve. I'll gladly give up some hp at high (unrealistic rpm for a street car) for a gain of 25-40 ft/lbs across the board on my STREET car.

 

[AlmostFamous]

My god..., you'd think these people were actually capable of doing some basic reading comprehension? Guess not...

HEY DUMMY..., we are NOT running a race in either an 1/8 mile track or a 1/4 mile track because we have STREET CARS that we drive on public roads.

Not everyone has the same driving patterns. Most of my driving is highway, in Texas where speed limits can get as high as 85mph so I have plenty of opportunities to rev beyond 5,000rpms which I do all the time. Your arguement that you never have the opportunity to see higher rpms doesn’t apply to everyone. Also, you’re taking the 1/4 mile comparison literally when it’s simply being used as a barometer of performance.

Sorry, but you are completely ignoring the torque curve. I'll gladly give up some hp at high (unrealistic rpm for a street car) for a gain of 25-40 ft/lbs across the board on my STREET car.

Not quite an apples to apples as the dyno below is a 2018 F150, but swapping to the 2018 GT manifold is fairly common on F150s. Every before and after dyno graph I’ve seen of an owner who goes from the 2018 F150 manifold to the 2018 GT manifold looks like the graph below. Keep in mind the 2018 F150 manifold has improvements over the 2015-2017 F150 manifold.

The F150 will make more power upto 5,500rpms but what it gives up from 5,500-7,500rpms is just too much for me to overlook. The graph you provided is by far the most generous I’ve seen between a F150 manifold and 2018 GT manifold. Still would be very interested in seeing someone swap over to the 2018 F150 manifold and see the gains it has over the 2015-2017 F150 manifold.

 

[Remy_reign]

Not everyone has the same driving patterns.

Still would be very interested in seeing someone swap over to the 2018 F150 manifold and see the gains it has over the 2015-2017 F150 manifold.

This is my thoughts. Down to the T. I've been ignoring all the useless opinions to try to keep negativity away from the thread. But it's a bit hard to understand why one who doesn't have a helpful opinion or a positive way to voice why they wouldn't do it, would spend time and energy voicing or trolling. Freedom to do so by all means more power to you. But understand that there are ppl that dont drive the way you drive. And the buy a car for what it's meant for God forbid anyone spend their money on what they like. I think theres more ppl commenting against the idea in this thread than ppl who are interested in the idea and information.

Ok Back to lurking I go.

 

[Notagain]

PHUCK me running...

The level of stooopid on this topic is astounding!

Sorry, but you are completely ignoring the torque curve. I'll gladly give up some hp at high (unrealistic rpm for a street car) for a gain of 25-40 ft/lbs across the board on my STREET car.

The VMP mani shootout was a joke. If you cant figure that put then happy trails with an F150 mani.

Its really this simple.

The higher you can rev the bigger wider rpm window you have thus a higher AVERAGE HP and TQ numbers.

Why do you think ANY boosted coyote is such a killer combo? The rpm window is gigantic. Most GM or Dodge setups dont rev to 8K rpm.... LOL.

Sorry you clearly dont get this ill stop wasting my time.

The coyote is a small cube engine it NEEDs a big rpm window to work well.

But hey maybe youd like to explain to me how putting a shit intake mani on a small cube high revving F1 or Indy engine is an excellent idea next?

LOLOLOLOLOLOL.

 

[Notagain]

My god..., you'd think these people were actually capable of doing some basic reading comprehension? Guess not...

HEY DUMMY..., we are NOT running a race in either an 1/8 mile track or a 1/4 mile track because we have STREET CARS that we drive on public roads.

When am I going to (on a public street) warm my tires by doing a burnout, and then stage my car, wait for the light to turn green and then hammer the throttle and keep it pegged (again, on a public street) for 1,320 feet?

The answer: NEVER

So your statements are irrelevant to say the least. Damn, why is this concept so hard for some peeps to understand.

IT'S A PHUCKING STREET CAR.

Dont you clowns want the down low torque of tje F150 mani?

Know what warms the tires from a dig?

Torque down low!

Proof you are an idiot.

But but butt I want an F150 mani for the Torque but dont need the Torque all in the same breath above.

Psst you need to buy a damn Tesla and leave the combustion engines for the rest of us LOL!

 

[rebellovw]

This seems akin to asking your hot girlfriend to take off her bikini and please put on a one piece.

 

[Notagain]

This seems akin to asking your hot girlfriend to take off her bikini and please put on a one piece.

ROFL! nailed it. Welp. Close up this thread my friends nothing more to see here!

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