Whipple or other stuff

[NewTekBuzz]

no, the whipple tune is done through their device. there is no bump for catless. their tune is 50 state legal. however you may and will make more power because the backpressure difference. also may get a little more power because the tune still uses knock and cht to add and pull timing. catless header should get the heat away from engine faster

i have stage 2 with fans,132tb,72lb injectors, and a catback im guessing from many others thatim in the 725 whp area.
the guys ive talked to with headers are in the 765 whp area

DAMN... Just damn, that's a lot of HP. I'm strictly running 93 so I'm guessing go with smaller pulley? im guessing that gives more boost?

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[venumous]

Stinky because I went with aftermarket hi-flow cats. It was actually a bassani hi-flow x pipe if you're curious. This was on a 2003 mach 1 that I had swapped the entire drive train out of an 2003 cobra. The motor was fully built, custom cams, full exhaust, etc with a whipple. It was fast as hell but also woke up the dead when I got on it and really stunk at idle. What I learned in that endeavor was cams are a waste of money and destroy your gas mileage, hi-flow or no cats makes you smell like exhaust if the windows are down and the biggest power gains I got was when I did a pulley swap with race gas.

Regarding your question on oem cat life, I'm not sure how much life I'll get out of the factory cats but if they fail, I shouldn't have a problem finding someone selling their factory setup off their car or a visit to boneyard.

Tony

Owning a cammed 03 Cobra, I can say for sure I will NEVER own another car with cams, ever. My first 03 with Whipple and supporting mods was so much less of a headache to work on and to drive.

 

[rs7337]

Yes it is. If you have 93 octane then you can run the 3.625 pulley. Just ask for it when you order kit. That's what I have

 

[Roh92cp]

I'm running Stainless Works LT headers without cats, does that mean they bump the tune up some?
Another question... Can you still get Whipple tune (without flash tool) and load through nGauge? Not sure 100% if I would use Lund tune or Whipple. Definitely want flight control

You can order without the flate tool and calibration if you like and use the Ngauge to flash another calibration. You may need to talk to whoever will do your tune first to make sure they are compatible with the Ngauge.

 

[rs7337]

Roh92cp is right... But if you want all the engine safety features whipple has the you need their tune. Also as far as I know,no one is making the same power as the whipple tune with the stage 1 or 2 specific parts

 

[Livnpaintball2]

Or go with a beefcake Paxton kit for literally half the price, make very similar power and still have 4K left over for cosmetic mods.

I think it's crazy that the whipple is so expensive and apparently makes a lot of power on the dyno with the supplied 11psi but o haven't really seen them perform as good as centri's or VMP blowers at the track

How is $1000 difference 4K? 6100 vs 7200 for the whipple, that's not 4K.
Can you explain?

 

[jwhite]

Let's not get into brand war,,,,, OP's question is Supercharger or something else?
OP you can see that a lot of us love the F/I systems. Dollar for dollar is the biggest difference maker for performance. Yes you can some cosmetic stuff that looks cool but going F/I makes you smile every time you push that button.
If you go F/I talk the the venders here on the forum, Beefcake, lethal performance, ext. take the time to call them and explain your wants and needs and expectations. Whippe might be the right fit but so could Paxton or KB or even Roush. Just do your research so you get a system that fits you. They are all good and all make a lot of power.

 

[mustang1]

I priced a Whipple and Paxton on the team beefcake racing website, and they add up to roughly the same price once you add on the goodies. I like the look of the Whipple, the engine warranty, and the Flight Control software, but its very hot in Texas this time of year. My CHT temps are usually above 215F. Whats the OEM thermostat? 180F? Is aftermarket 170F or PP radiator going to make that much difference?

 

[jwhite]

Brenspeed put a 160' thermostat on mine,PP with Roush set up. I'll try and get this right on how it was explained to me. The s550 ,5.0 water temp is actually taken at the head not actually in the water. The variance is estimated to be 10 degrees difference, so if you run a 160 thermostat your head temp will be around 170. Any time you can add more volume of water for cooling the better. Again if I am correct in this, every 1 lbs of boost adds 10 degrees of heat to air coming in.
Side note,,, lol
But always consult a professional.

 

[NewTekBuzz]

Let's not get into brand war,,,,, OP's question is Supercharger or something else?
OP you can see that a lot of us love the F/I systems. Dollar for dollar is the biggest difference maker for performance. Yes you can some cosmetic stuff that looks cool but going F/I makes you smile every time you push that button.
If you go F/I talk the the venders here on the forum, Beefcake, lethal performance, ext. take the time to call them and explain your wants and needs and expectations. Whippe might be the right fit but so could Paxton or KB or even Roush. Just do your research so you get a system that fits you. They are all good and all make a lot of power.

If I go FI it will be Whipple, no question about it. This is just what I want, nothing against any other brand as this will/might be my first. The biggest hurdle at this point is the wife and the money (but let's not go there either) my second biggest choice is upgrading this POS stereo system.... Can honestly says it's worse than our F150. For what I want there would cost just around 4K installed by myself with knowledge for this board of course. It has been about 20+ years since I put any kind of money into a system. Obviously times change and it's so much more complicated than pulling the head unit.I have been literally playing this thru in my head for months. I know it's ultimately what I want but still like opinions.
Thanks for all the input this far.
Tim

 

[4to8]

I priced a Whipple and Paxton on the team beefcake racing website, and they add up to roughly the same price once you add on the goodies. I like the look of the Whipple, the engine warranty, and the Flight Control software, but its very hot in Texas this time of year. My CHT temps are usually above 215F. Whats the OEM thermostat? 180F? Is aftermarket 170F or PP radiator going to make that much difference?

I have had a vortech v3 on my 11 and a whipple on my 16 here in San Antonio. Both kits will handle the heat here in south Texas. 2200 is a solid kit but I would look for one of the HD options just my preference because of changing the blower oil. I know it's not a huge deal but I wished I had gone that route. I ultimately choose whipple on the 16 because of flight control and I knew I want going to look to push it in the future for bigger power. Just some things to consider in your purchase. If you talk to beef I'm sure he will get you squared away with an awesome setup. Really can't go wrong with any of the options available just have to choose what makes sense to you.

 

[Bertetto]

Just waiting for another Whipple sale and mine will get ordered, can't wait.

 

[Livnpaintball2]

Pm the vendors and you will get the sale price, ordering mine this week!!!

 

[NewTekBuzz]

Pm the vendors and you will get the sale price, ordering mine this week!!!

15% won't come until November

 

[Livnpaintball2]

15% in November? Fill me in please.

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