SCCA CAM-C Thread

[WItoTX]

I use slightly modified DSC calibrations on my GT500 with steeda magneride springs. No float at speed over undulations or bumps. Drop me your emails and I can send the files.

Shock calibrations
Front range - 700-850ma
Rear range - 650-750ma

Velocity calibrations
compression front low speed - (-1.5)
compression front med speed - (-0.7)
rebound front - all zero'd

Compression rear low speed - (-2.0)
Compression rear med speed - (-2.0)
Compression rear high speed - (-1.0)

Rebound rear low speed - (+1.5)
Rebound rear med speed - (+2.0)
rebound rear high speed - (+2.5)


This vid is at our bumpiest local track.

Cresson definitely is rough!

I'm going to look at mine tonight and compare, but you have 500 dampers which is what I suspect fixes 90% of the issue.

You make it to MSR Houston? That track is brutal.

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[mavisky]

Someone just posted in the GT350 forum describing the exact same issue that bumps in a straight line seem to cause massive issues with the DSC tuner for some reason.

https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/threads/dsc-sport-controller-suggestions-files.205289/#post-4109085

 

[WItoTX]

I think I'm going to bump my fronts up to start at 600. We will see how it likes ECR.

But the solution is most likely exactly what Shogun says. They are pretty reasonable price. Start with fronts only because the rear feels pretty good.

 

[mavisky]

I think I'm going to bump my fronts up to start at 600. We will see how it likes ECR.

But the solution is most likely exactly what Shogun says. They are pretty reasonable price. Start with fronts only because the rear feels pretty good.

Agreed. The fronts just seem to hit scenarios where they go full soft all of a sudden. The thing is I never experience that with the stock controller so it makes me think the issue lied with the DSC and not the shocks.

 

[WItoTX]

Agreed. The fronts just seem to hit scenarios where they go full soft all of a sudden. The thing is I never experience that with the stock controller so it makes me think the issue lied with the DSC and not the shocks.

If teelew were here, he would provide many instances of this being the case. We had an email exchange a while back about it.

All I know, he was more than gracious towards DSC. But when I called DSC, they treated me like I was the idiot, and said Teelew doesn't understand how the DSC works. But I think he has way more knowledge about it than Tom ast DSC.

Robert Weathers has also gone to the gt500 struts, but I think his eco is ~150 lbs lighter up front too. Robert is a genius when it comes to the DSC too

 

[shogun32]

hey treated me like I was the idiot, and said Teelew doesn't understand how the DSC works

and yet Tom/DSC will NOT explain WTH they are doing. Which is a lot of nerve, frankly. Esp to insult a guy with TL's background. TL can buy and sell DSC a hundred times over with his annual budget.

Considering the price commanded, "give them the source code" (well almost) should be de rigueur. You look at what PCMtec is letting people do for a VERY modest asking price, DSC should be ashamed of themselves IMO. When you hand customers what amounts to an unfinished recipe, the customer shouldn't have to blindly stab in the dark, nor be baffled what the inputs/knobs do since the output is not deterministic, nor does it correlate.

is not how you keep savvy customers happy. Esp in light of "odd" behavior.

 

[NightmareMoon]

Robert Weathers has also gone to the gt500 struts, but I think his eco is ~150 lbs lighter up front too. Robert is a genius when it comes to the DSC too

I dont have a horse in this fight (my struts have oil for brains), but Weathers has spent a lot of time trying to dial in the controllers than anybody I know. He’s be the one I’d reach out to.

 

[shogun32]

Weathers has spent a lot of time trying to d

Of Camaro fame? I'm surprised he wasn't happy with GM config. Was he able to successfully exceed factory?

 

[WItoTX]

I dont have a horse in this fight (my struts have oil for brains), but Weathers has spent a lot of time trying to dial in the controllers than anybody I know. He’s be the one I’d reach out to.

Yeah yeah....you and Fletcher, drives me nuts how much easier suspension modifications are.

I got an email into him. I'm actually running his tune RN, with some slight modifications. Which is why I think the 500 struts are the answer.

 

[WItoTX]

Of Camaro fame? I'm surprised he wasn't happy with GM config. Was he able to successfully exceed factory?

My educated guess is he wanted a new challenge, and he's in close with the DSC folks (not Tom, him and I had a fun talk about Tom and his "customer service").

 

[shogun32]

Which is why I think the 500 struts are the answer.

Here's $50. Go buy the front set already!

It's not clear if the rear dampers are different. Id wager probably, but can't prove it.

 

[NightmareMoon]

Of Camaro fame? I'm surprised he wasn't happy with GM config. Was he able to successfully exceed factory?

I can’t speak for him on the platform switch, but Weathers last Camaro was extremely fast. Otis is faster in his ZL1 but “he’s an alien”.

Weathers didnt come up aces for SoloNats that year, but that y’all know that shit is hard.

He’s a builder and so the nimble 4-cyl magnaride car /built right/ was a fun project direction after gassing out on the blower V8 extreme. Silly season after nats be silly sometimes.

 

[Gearz]

Can anyone confirm if the GT500 struts or Mach1 Magneride struts are different than the GT350? The generic Ford Parts online search (Levittown) shows the same part number across the models.

 

[mavisky]

Can anyone confirm if the GT500 struts or Mach1 Magneride struts are different than the GT350? The generic Ford Parts online search (Levittown) shows the same part number across the models.

https://www.steeda.com/ford-genuine-40-1016-103-mustang-magneride-kit

 

[NightmareMoon]

Hey, got to drive my voodoo transplanted car around the block a few times to grab some datalogs at speed for the tuner. Pretty cool. No bumper lol. Left it with the mechanic for oil lines and they need to charge the AC. Otherwise it was checking out just fine. Glancing at the logs and it does look like it will need a good rev on the tune. No major tune issues, no misfiring or hiccups, but trims looked like it was leaning on the O2 sensors for corrections a bit too much?

The Giken diff causes the tires skip a little in tight turns (like U turns, and tight turns 90° pulling onto a road). Should be interesting to drive course at speed.

I might have made a small miscalculation going with the X-pipe. so I may be looking into turndowns

As for Nats, my Texas Spokes friends seem to have a great time. Lots of people missed the trophies entirely this year, we had a lot of guys in DS, but only one trophy... but we had some solid class winners. DP win, DSL win was a huge one for her, she was a nats rookie last year and a silly DNF after the timing lights ruined her shot at a good trophy, so this victory was a sweet one. XPL, Texas had three or four good podium finishes (3rd place CAMS, 2nd SSC).

I hear the CAMS winner didn't have headlights nor taillights, which is disappointing because nobody protested it, and its literally the second bullet point on the CAM/X rule sheet. Sure sure he made weight and I suppose that's the main advantage of not having headlights or taillights I guess. Still WTF man, CAM is supposed to be road worthy cars, and no lights ain't road worthy. This isn't a trailer queen class. Yes he was fast and that's not why he won, but still...

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