Performance package for a daily driver?

[Wildcat]

Good feedback here. Thanks!

BTW - it will be a a manual. I updated my original post.

You mentioned not seeing the value in the additional performance pack options. I think the best thing would be to wait and read some road tests and impressions of cars both with and without the performance pack. If reviewers mention a big difference, then you have something more to think about. And you can confirm it by driving the two different builds yourself.

Once you can do that, you will be able to make a more comfortable and informed decision on your choice.

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[Steve-OO]

I actually see it as an advantage for people who live in much hotter climates like texas can keep their engines at a better operating temperature.

Do you really believe Ford (or anyone, for that matter) would design a cooling system so marginal that the only way to keep the engine within operating parameters in hotter parts of the country is to get an option which is obviously intended for track use?

Please...the standard cooling system will be more than adequate for a Death Valley summer. The larger radiator will do nothing outside a track environment where the engine is run at it's limit for prolonged periods. Same for the oil cooler.

 

[Seabee1973]

Do you really believe Ford (or anyone, for that matter) would design a cooling system so marginal that the only way to keep the engine within operating parameters in hotter parts of the country is to get an option which is obviously intended for track use?

Please...the standard cooling system will be more than adequate for a Death Valley summer. The larger radiator will do nothing outside a track environment where the engine is run at it's limit for prolonged periods. Same for the oil cooler.

Trust me I completely understand that.... for a base it's completely adequate ... especially a failsafe one at that... sometimes I have one of those days you literally have to drive on the highway like it's a Grande prix here and often I drive faster to get away from alot of other people driving around me

 

[Jmeo]

Do you really believe Ford (or anyone, for that matter) would design a cooling system so marginal that the only way to keep the engine within operating parameters in hotter parts of the country is to get an option which is obviously intended for track use?

Please...the standard cooling system will be more than adequate for a Death Valley summer. The larger radiator will do nothing outside a track environment where the engine is run at it's limit for prolonged periods. Same for the oil cooler.

I am happy to have a larger radiator. My car will not see one minute of track use and probably not 1 second of drag racing but it will get a supercharger and one of my favorite piece of mind mods is a larger 3 row radiator. And your right, the stock radiator will suffice normal use throughout the US but a larger radiator is still a larger radiator and better for cooling. A cooler engine is a happier engine and a happier engine will run cooler and make more efficient HP. I know we are not talking anything to wright home about but it's still a nice feature even for non track use.


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[Grimace427]

Same for the oil cooler.

The oil cooler is standard on all GT's.

 

[Husker]

Get the PP.

 

[DivineStrike]

Sold



Agreed. I actually thought he sounded mature for a 19 year old. (Particularly the thinking ahead part)

He "sounded" a little immature but really he sounded his age. But he definitely seemed much more responsible than the average 19 yo thus also being more mature at the same time. I think in this situation it's possible just his attitude that seemed a little immature. Just my 2 cents. But good on ya kid for being able to save up for three years and get a car like this definitely a little jealous you've been able to put yourself in that situation at that age. I wouldn't have been able to pull it off.

As for the PP, I just believe in getting the best car for your money and PP allows you to do that for basically pennies when compared to the overall cost. Over the years you will likely have less problems due to the larger radiator. It's just a smart move really. And honestly those little tid bits are the primary reason I'm going with the PP vs doing the mods myself. I would still get this package even if the brakes stayed the same. The mustang will be my DD for sure. And I will hit the track up but I won't do anything on a road course competitively as I wouldn't want to increase the risk of f*ing up my car any more than doing a track day or autocross. I'll build up a car for that. I'll be keeping this stang for life unless I trade it in for a gt350. I may also consider trading it in on the refresh. Just depends (like if the 1st gen starts having some gremlins and the refresh is more reliable), either way an s550 will be in my garage for a long long time, I don't see any reason I wouldn't own this car for any less than 10+ years.

 

[Swoope]

i am ready for the hate.

i think if you dont track the car the "package" is a waste of money..

it is designed to protect or enhance the cars ability while driving the over 9/10s experience.

now the answers.
handling wise, if you are driving harder than that on the street you are an idiot.

braking, the car will stop just as fast as the tires will let them.. fade resistance is what the package gets you.

radiator, not going to be an issue on street. FI is a different story.

wheels and tires, you are going to a larger wheel with less and more expensive tire options. tires, less options and wear much faster, more money.

k bar, shocks, springs. not needed for street.

3.55 rear less mpg.

for 2k it is a great deal for someone that will track the car.. for someone that doesent that money could be used elsewhere..

now the big question is the gauges. do you really want to spend 2k for two gauges?

this is for the eco boost.. add 500 bucks for the GT

jmoicbw

beers

 

[Devon]

Much of the above may be true but there are less tangible benefits from performance setups that can be felt even on the street. Case in point: the base C7 vs. the Z51 C7 (the latter being the rough equivalent of the GT with PP). Several reviews which have compared the two noted a big difference in handling and braking feel favouring the Z51. Would you really need the extra performance over a base Vette on the street? Of course not. Would you find it worth the extra cost for the way it improved the fun factor in your driving? That's a call that can only be made by comparing the two. Ditto for the PP.

 

[aspensilver]

i am ready for the hate.

i think if you dont track the car the "package" is a waste of money..

handling wise, if you are driving harder than that on the street you are an idiot.

k bar, shocks, springs. not needed for street.

Disagree, I think plenty of people can responsibly let it rip on empty backroads. The suspension is something I think most folks would be able to tell the difference within only a minute or two of driving.

If you are unsure just wait till the car comes out and test drive a PP and non PP and then it is easy to decide. You might find something on the lot optioned how you like anyway.

He "sounded" a little immature but really he sounded his age. But he definitely seemed much more responsible than the average 19 yo thus also being more mature at the same time. I think in this situation it's possible just his attitude that seemed a little immature. Just my 2 cents. But good on ya kid for being able to save up for three years and get a car like this definitely a little jealous you've been able to put yourself in that situation at that age. I wouldn't have been able to pull it off.

I think he sounded immature but that's standard for being 19. Knowing tech stuff just shows savvyness and willing to research, which is great. I think what sounds immature is talking about how he is 19 and can afford it and not realize many people have different situations or choices like many kids, supporting a disabled family member, begin saving for retirement at young age, save up for a house,pay for their own college, plan to go to grad school, or a whole slew of other causes/reasons.

The truth is that it depends more on your situation and personal choices than your age.

 

[Brent302]

i am ready for the hate.

i think if you dont track the car the "package" is a waste of money..

it is designed to protect or enhance the cars ability while driving the over 9/10s experience.

now the answers.
handling wise, if you are driving harder than that on the street you are an idiot.

braking, the car will stop just as fast as the tires will let them.. fade resistance is what the package gets you.

radiator, not going to be an issue on street. FI is a different story.

wheels and tires, you are going to a larger wheel with less and more expensive tire options. tires, less options and wear much faster, more money.

k bar, shocks, springs. not needed for street.

3.55 rear less mpg.

for 2k it is a great deal for someone that will track the car.. for someone that doesent that money could be used elsewhere..

now the big question is the gauges. do you really want to spend 2k for two gauges?

this is for the eco boost.. add 500 bucks for the GT

jmoicbw

beers

Remember it may be stupid to you! Butttttttt if your looking to resale your car you may be the stupid one without it while the stupids that want it are stupidly looking fo...oh dear I've gone cross eyed.

 

[fionic]

oh dear I've gone cross eyed.

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[DivineStrike]

I think what sounds immature is talking about how he is 19 and can afford it and not realize many people have different situations or choices.

The truth is that it depends more on your situation and personal choices than your age.

:shrug: Don't really know what you're going on about here but I'm giving him props for being able to do it on his own. Which is pretty awesome at his age, as not a lot of people are able to do it at such a young age. Whatever he did, he's doing it right. Cuz I sure as hell didn't. If I were being negative towards the guy I could see how you would say that but i'm basically giving him a "Good job" comment. I know most people are perfectly fine with getting their own satisfaction out of hard work but it's nice to hear it from someone else every once and a while.


And Swoope, you don't need to be riding at 9/10's to benefit from the PP. You can feel it driving the speed limit going around on ramps. better suspension means the car feels more stable and confidence inspiring, which also allows you to react to emergency situations better. Also, as someone else mentioned...in hotter climates the larger radiator will be of benefit regardless of how hard you're driving it. Telling people they are stupid for driving a little spirited on the public roads is a little asinine. It's not like the suspension they put on this thing is a racing suspension or anything near it. It's just meant to perform better.

 

[PsyopGoat]

And Swoope, you don't need to be riding at 9/10's to benefit from the PP. You can feel it driving the speed limit going around on ramps. better suspension means the car feels more stable and confidence inspiring, which also allows you to react to emergency situations better. Also, as someone else mentioned...in hotter climates the larger radiator will be of benefit regardless of how hard you're driving it. Telling people they are stupid for driving a little spirited on the public roads is a little asinine. It's not like the suspension they put on this thing is a racing suspension or anything near it. It's just meant to perform better.

I absolutely 100% agree.

 

[derieuz]

Anyways disregarding earlier, If you aren't someone who is picky about the performance and you are more about having the car and having it looks nice, you can save the couple thousand dollars and not get the performance package.

If you are someone who is planning on upgrading the suspension and cooling later or think you might do it, it would be more wise to do it now.

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Better braking, predictability, and ride for the most part (not counting bumpy or harsh roads)

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