P1 vs P1X

[whatsup62]

Thinking of upgrading from P1 to P1X.
Same everything except head unit, what gain would I see?

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[SolarFlare]

IDK how much the upgrade costs. I guess that would be a deciding factor as well. I’d say you gain 15-20?

 

[GT2]

You gain more the faster you're spinning the blower too though. The gt350 cars on stock procharger tune etc, are picking up 50whp~ going from p1sc to p1x. I think you could expect similar since it looks like you're probably spinning yours up.

But I would probably consider a d1x personally. Off the shelf I would opt for a p1x over p1sc since you can still get the same base tune and just pick up more power/more power potential. But if I were to upgrade down the road I would go for the d1x, like your situation now. I would venture to guess both would need a retune regardless. D1x can probably go past your HP goals, and I think that's always a nice option.

 

[SolarFlare]

With D1 upgrade being 1500 and D1x being 1700. Safe to say p1x is ~1400? I like the look on people’s face when you say it’s jusy a P1. Lol

 

[ahl395]

Read this article, MAK did the exact swap you're talking about when the P1X came out.

http://www.makperformance.com/The-all-new-Procharger-P1X-on-the-MAK-S550-Mustang_b_8.html

P1SC1 Numbers: 708/542
P1X Numbers: 750/558

How much does the upgrade cost? I asked for P1X to D1X upgrade and it was around $1700. Kinda pricey for the HP gain IMO.

 

[GT2]

With D1 upgrade being 1500 and D1x being 1700. Safe to say p1x is ~1400? I like the look on people’s face when you say it’s jusy a P1. Lol

When you buy the kit new p1x upgrade over p1sc is more than a d1sc by like 30 or 50 bucks? and a d1x is more by about 200...

 

[GT2]

Read this article, MAK did the exact swap you're talking about when the P1X came out.

http://www.makperformance.com/The-all-new-Procharger-P1X-on-the-MAK-S550-Mustang_b_8.html



How much does the upgrade cost? I asked for P1X to D1X upgrade and it was around $1700. Kinda pricey for the HP gain IMO.

Yeah but he's going from p1sc to p1x... So he's going to have to spend 1500$ or more for the p1x. So... Spending another 200 to get another 100+hp power potential is not a bad idea.

 

[beefcake]

if your gonna upgrade, i'd go d1 or d1x

 

[SolarFlare]

When you buy the kit new p1x upgrade over p1sc is more than a d1sc by like 30 or 50 bucks? and a d1x is more by about 200...

Interesting. Thanks, did not know that. Then if youre paying about 16-1700 regardless then go D1x

 

[ahl395]

When you buy the kit new p1x upgrade over p1sc is more than a d1sc by like 30 or 50 bucks? and a d1x is more by about 200...

Yeah but he's going from p1sc to p1x... So he's going to have to spend 1500$ or more for the p1x. So... Spending another 200 to get another 100+hp power potential is not a bad idea.

He has his kit already though, so it's too late for the $200 upgrade.

This is why I'm so mad at myself for not going to the D1X when I bought my kit lol.

 

[whatsup62]

Thanks for all the replies..i'm running the 3.4 pulley now and seeing 10.5 psi. Thought about going to the 3.2 but I think that is right at or slightly pass the max rpm of the P1. I agree the D1X is probably the smart money way to go. Wanting to be right around 12-13 psi .

 

[ahl395]

Thanks for all the replies..i'm running the 3.4 pulley now and seeing 10.5 psi. Thought about going to the 3.2 but I think that is right at or slightly pass the max rpm of the P1. I agree the D1X is probably the smart money way to go. Wanting to be right around 12-13 psi .

You can use the calculator here to find your RPM with any pulley size, etc.

http://www.jpcracing.com/race-calculators/

You'd have to stay under 7200rpm to not overspin the P1SC on a 3.2 pulley.

What would be the cost to upgrade it to a Stage 2 setup? That would let you run a pulley for more boost without overspinning. Might be better to go that route than paying for the head unit upgrade? I know DiabloMatt is making ~14psi on a maxed out Stage 2 P1SC. FWIW my maxed P1X stage 2 can make 19+psi.

 

[GT2]

He has his kit already though, so it's too late for the $200 upgrade.

This is why I'm so mad at myself for not going to the D1X when I bought my kit lol.

It's still only 200$ more than the p1x. As in 1700 vs 1500. Worth it for sure.

 

[whatsup62]

You can use the calculator here to find your RPM with any pulley size, etc.

http://www.jpcracing.com/race-calculators/

You'd have to stay under 7200rpm to not overspin the P1SC on a 3.2 pulley.

What would be the cost to upgrade it to a Stage 2 setup? That would let you run a pulley for more boost without overspinning. Might be better to go that route than paying for the head unit upgrade? I know DiabloMatt is making ~14psi on a maxed out Stage 2 P1SC. FWIW my maxed P1X stage 2 can make 19+psi.

Well I have the stage two kit...just never put it on. I originally bought the HO kit with the stage two IC. Then I got a really good deal on a stage two kit (brackets and pulleys). Had great results with the HO and saw some having some issues with the stage two so I never put it on. I agree might be the best route to go.

 

[ahl395]

It's still only 200$ more than the p1x. As in 1700 vs 1500. Worth it for sure.

Oh I got it now. I agree.

Well I have the stage two kit...just never put it on. I originally bought the HO kit with the stage two IC. Then I got a really good deal on a stage two kit (brackets and pulleys). Had great results with the HO and saw some having some issues with the stage two so I never put it on. I agree might be the best route to go.

Stage 2 here no issues, what problems did you hear about? But yeah I would start there if I were you, especially if you already have everything for it. You'll have no problem raising boost a few psi.

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