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How much faster does a supercharged feel

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It depends on whether you upgrade the tires or not and whether you are on a prepped surface or not.

Drive your existing car and see what it feels like right before the tires start spinning in first gear. With a blower you can achieve close to that feeling of acceleration at higher speeds and in higher gears.

If you don't upgrade the tires or pick your spots you won't get additional acceleration, you will just spin the tires.

So on track you definitely gain something. On the street you might only gain tickets.
What he said. At most surface street legal speeds on the street, the car will be barely quicker than a stock '18 GT A10 PP1, because, traction. Granted, the '18 GT PP1 A10 accelerates significantly quicker than the Gen 2 Coyote powered cars with the M6 or A6 trans. So for your car, the difference at lower speeds (i.e., 30-60 mph) will be noticeable. Below 30 mph, both cars are spinning anyway, so the difference will be negligible.

The difference is the supercharged car can accelerate much harder at highway speeds, as you get near the traction limits of the tires at higher speeds. Stop light to stop light (i.e, 0-40 mph), the difference will likely be negligible. So, I guess the question is at what speed are you curious about? Low speeds? Negligible (due to traction limits). High speeds? A supercharged car will likely accelerate at 80 mph about as hard as your stock car accelerates at 50 mph, give or take, depending on boost, rwhp, etc. At 50 mph, the supercharged GT will probably accelerate about as hard as your stock car at 25-30 mph, both being traction limited at the respective speeds.

I've compiled a lot of data on acceleration for many different makes and models of performance cars. For comparison, the GT500 only ran 0-60 in 3.6 seconds vs. the '18 GT A10 PP1 which does it in 3.8 seconds (C&D), and that's with 1.6" wider rear tires (275s vs 315s). However, at highway speeds, the difference will be significant, proven by the fact that the GT500 does 60-100 mph in 3.4 seconds, vs. the A10 GT at 4.7 seconds. Anecdotal evidence of the low speed traction limited theory: One time I ran a modified Charger Hellcat on the street with my stock '18 GT PP1 A10 from 10-50 mph (brief, yes). We were dead even because we were both spinning most of the way (me through first gear and into 2nd). He was just spinning the entire time, so even though his car made something like 300 more hp than my stock GT, it was a tie for that brief stint (we both took off at the exact same time). We both have 275 width rear tires.

Let's compare the stock 2018 GT A10 PP1 numbers to the current GT500 numbers:

Per C&D, the '18 GT A10 PP1 did 60-80 mph in 2.0 seconds. The '20 GT500, per Motortrend's recent test, did 80-100 mph in 1.9 seconds. So, essentially, the GT500 at 80 mph pulls about like the '18 GT PP1 A10 at 60 mph. Mind you, the '18 GT PP1 A10 pulls very strong at 60 mph so the GT500 pulling that hard at 20 mph greater speed makes a big difference in overall acceleration (proven by the 132 mph trap speed of the GT500 vs. the 120 mph trap speed of the '18 GT). Make sense?
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So I guess what my question is, is supercharging going to feel like it's worth all of the extra money if I do it? How much faster could it possibly feel to the 335xi twin turbo with bolt in making 380hp awd ? To me I don't think it would be worth it unless the car was significantly faster than that
It's hard to judge with my 335ix, because it has a manual transmission, which is huge disadvantage to the A10 in my 2018 GT. But, from past experience with other forced induction cars, a Roots type or twin screw supercharger will significantly improve the low end performance of a Mustang GT. In stock form, It really is faster than it feels just because the low end is kind of weak. If you decide to do it, I'm sure you will not be disappointed. But your tire budget will take a beating.
 

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So I guess what my question is, is supercharging going to feel like it's worth all of the extra money if I do it? How much faster could it possibly feel to the 335xi twin turbo with bolt in making 380hp awd ? To me I don't think it would be worth it unless the car was significantly faster than that
Will a BMW 335xi turbo with bolt on parts run 135MPH plus in the 1/4 mile?
 

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Let's see...a 17 GT Mustang @ 435 Flywheel HP (est. 370 RWHP) vs 631 RWHP (my 6r80 setup on 93).......hmmmmmm...an increase of 261 RWHP or 70.5%...and the question was..."how much faster does the car feel over stock?"

The followup question was "how much faster would it feel over a BMW 335i with, maybe 380 RWHP"... a 66% lower output. There is roughly 400 lb difference in weight between the two which would be the only difference to speak of. Even with that factored into the equation thee comparison is still little different than the stock compare.

So your answer would be 'much faster'. Now just go do it.

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@CORNYOTE: Superb! And yeah, Whipple blowers do make that whine.
 

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So I guess what my question is, is supercharging going to feel like it's worth all of the extra money if I do it? How much faster could it possibly feel to the 335xi twin turbo with bolt in making 380hp awd ? To me I don't think it would be worth it unless the car was significantly faster than that
A blown S550 with a good tune on 93 is going to make 625-680 wheel HP or thereabouts. Therein lies your answer;)
 

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I look at it this way. If I can lite up the tires pretty much when I want to, I don't need a lower rear or FI.
 

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Lol to be honest , I dont know
Google found this. https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=732778 N54's are badass.
According to CnD a 18' Mustang GT A10 can rip an 11.8 1/4 mile stock. So add 200-400+ Hp and its gonna pull like an animal after 80MPH.
My buddy had a mean N54 and that car was fasst, but its a perspective thing. 100 Mph felt like 100 Mph, In my Mustang 100 Mph feels like 60 Mph most of the time.
Both cars are sick they just feel very different, but a SC S550 is gonna eat its speedometer.

Edit: https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/threads/1-4-mile-fast-list-2-0.123497/
Thats the S550 1/4 mile fast list from the drag section.
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