Hill Start Assist question

[CJJon]

Only manuals have hill start assist.

Not true.

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[CJJon]

I vacationed in San Francisco 10 years ago and we rented a Nissan with an automatic tranny. I didn’t have any issues on hills, but I can see what you’re saying here. Maybe consider raising the idle in your tune in 100 rpm increments until the engine is able to hold the car steady on a hill and that might do it.

Vacationing isn't commuting. Being stuck in heavy bumper to bumper traffic on steep hills is very tiresome. It isn't a matter of technique.

 

[NGOT8R]

Vacationing isn't commuting. Being stuck in heavy bumper to bumper traffic on steep hills is very tiresome. It isn't a matter of technique.

You’re right, I can’t argue that.

 

[Torched10]

Not true.

If your car is in drive.why would you new hill assist

 

[ctang101]

If your car is in drive.why would you new hill assist

If you are on a somewhat steep slope, the car would roll backward even if it’s in drive

 

[m3incorp]

Hill assist is not intended for a person to take their foot off the brake on an incline and expect it not to roll. It is there for that quick transition of letting out on the clutch and accelerating while on a slope. It holds for those very few seconds it should take to get the car moving forward.

 

[K4fxd]

Really? Come to Seattle or San Francisco and get back to me.

Been in SF and Seattle both. Driving a manual and an auto. Auto is easy, when light turns green lift foot off brake and apply accelerator. No drama. Even on "Streets of San Fransisco" streets

Manual, not so easy.

 

[CJJon]

Been in SF and Seattle both. Driving a manual and an auto. Auto is easy, when light turns green lift foot off brake and apply accelerator. No drama. Even on "Streets of San Fransisco" streets

Manual, not so easy.

Again, as a tourist sure. Try commuting when the asshole behind you is as close to your bumper as she can get. If you slip up with your footing, even slightly, you will roll back into them. Now imagine you have to do that 500 times for 45 minutes waiting to go three blocks (on a 15% grade).

In my 2013, I used the parking brake often.

 

[vanquishvzla]

people need to learn how to drive properly... lol

 

[CJJon]

people need to learn how to drive properly... lol

Right...Says the person from FL where it's pool-table flat.

Try creeping up or down this three block hill for an hour in bumper to bumper traffic. You'd probably have to park it and wait it out.

 

[Torched10]

If you are on a somewhat steep slope, the car would roll backward even if it’s in drive

but youd have your foot on brake and car in gear,so how would it roll.he must have manual tranny.

 

[vanquishvzla]

Right...Says the person from FL where it's pool-table flat.

Try creeping up or down this three block hill for an hour in bumper to bumper traffic. You'd probably have to park it and wait it out.

I live in florida, I'm not from florida... My first car was a manual car and i used to live on a steep mountain. My learning was basically hill start only, try to move without rolling back nor spinning the tires. if you learn that, the flat parts are not a problem.

I do agree that FL drivers are dumb as fuck and with the most basic rain or twisty roads the panic... at the most simple curve you'll se a million signs indicating a turn and to slow down to like 25 mph

 

[CJJon]

I live in florida, I'm not from florida... My first car was a manual car and i used to live on a steep mountain. My learning was basically hill start only, try to move without rolling back nor spinning the tires. if you learn that, the flat parts are not a problem.

I do agree that FL drivers are dumb as fuck and with the most basic rain or twisty roads the panic... at the most simple curve you'll se a million signs indicating a turn and to slow down to like 25 mph

My sweetie is from FL and she gets scared at looking down into drainage ditches! She freaks out there are no guardrails.

 

[Norm Peterson]

From the 2020 Owner Manual. Boldface mine.

Using Hill Start Assist
1. Press the brake pedal to bring your
vehicle to a complete standstill. Keep
the brake pedal pressed and shift into
first gear when facing uphill or reverse
(R) when facing downhill.
2. The system activates if the sensors
detect that your vehicle is on a slope.
3. When you remove your foot from the
brake pedal, your vehicle remains on
the slope without rolling away for a few
seconds. This hold time increases if you
are in the process of driving off.
4. Pull away in the normal manner.

Switching the System On and Off
Vehicles with Manual Transmission
You can switch this feature on or off in the
information display. The system
remembers the last setting when you start
your vehicle.
Vehicles with Automatic Transmission
The system turns on when you switch the
ignition on and you cannot switch the
system off.

Torque converters can allow the car to roll backward if they're "loose" enough or otherwise are not transmitting enough torque to the transmission to hold it stationary. It's the nature of fluid couplings to allow slippage, as there is no hard mechanical connection between the input and output shafts. Obviously, any lockup feature has to be disengaged when stopped with the engine running and the transmission in some range or other.


Norm

 

[RazzaRossa]

Right, most Florida drivers are dumb as fuck, because they are... not from Florida. Usually northerners or transplants from all over, city vermin usually. Live in a hilly city?, puss out and buy an auto, or move out of the over populated place. I've lived in place where it is as bad as S.F. driving a manual truck, It's not unique in that regard.

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