Birddog 29
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What all does it consist of. Is it a pp1 or 2 or a completely different animal
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pp1 gives you bigger staggered tires, Torsen diff, brembo brakes, k brace, strut tower brace, stiffer suspension tuning, less aggressive abs and traction control, additional cooling, some cosmetic changes in interior and the middle gauges. Magnaride is also an option but pp1 cars with magnaride are extremely difficult to find which is unfortunate because in my opinion the pp1 + magna is the sweet spot. The pp1 without magnaride drives / rides like crap in my opinion.What all does it consist of. Is it a pp1 or 2
pp1 gives you bigger staggered tires, Torsen diff, brembo brakes, k brace, strut tower brace, stiffer suspension tuning, less aggressive abs and traction control, additional cooling, some cosmetic changes in interior and the middle gauges. Magnaride is also an option but pp1 cars with magnaride are extremely difficult to find which is unfortunate because in my opinion the pp1 + magna is the sweet spot. The pp1 without magnaride drives / rides like crap in my opinion.
Pp2 gives you the above plus monster 305 tires all around, magnaride suspension, even less agressive abs and traction control, stiffer springs and bigger arbs. Pp2 is only available with 6mt.
And the Brembos and Torsen, but those depend on more what you're going for. It's performance for a road course or HPDE, not drag strip. Regardless, that 5k difference could go a long way in custom modding.The funny part is the biggest cost you are paying for in the pp1 is the wheels and tires and what's the first thing most change? My friend and I both have identical 2019 gts except his has pp1 and mine does not. We drive each others cars all the time you know what difference 5k makes..... next to none. Save the money and buy your own mods. The biggest costs in the pp1 is all the same stuff most people end up changing anyway so that 5k just sits in your garage. And the increased radiator... we watch our temps all the time and seriously there is next to no change in temps between his and mine. He has said numerous times he wishes he had not wasted the money on the performance pack and instead had put the 5k into mods of his choice. Not saying anyone is right or wrong mine is just another opinion based on my personal experiences for you to consider.
The funny part is the biggest cost you are paying for in the pp1 is the wheels and tires and what's the first thing most change? My friend and I both have identical 2019 gts except his has pp1 and mine does not. We drive each others cars all the time you know what difference 5k makes..... next to none. Save the money and buy your own mods. The biggest costs in the pp1 is all the same stuff most people end up changing anyway so that 5k just sits in your garage. And the increased radiator... we watch our temps all the time and seriously there is next to no change in temps between his and mine. He has said numerous times he wishes he had not wasted the money on the performance pack and instead had put the 5k into mods of his choice. Not saying anyone is right or wrong mine is just another opinion based on my personal experiences for you to consider.
Dude, your not getting that your not paying full price on the options when you buy with discounts/negotiate the buy $$$. Do you pay full retail for cars Einstein...?this is what IM saying for what you pay ford for what you get, you can do way more in custom. The brembos ...eh... we have had the brakes and rotors off both cars and there isnt that much difference and when driving his are actually touchier (the brembos). as for stopping power again eh worth 5k??? not really. The brakes on non and pp1 are not really that big of a difference the oem are rather beefy. I cant speak to the torsen all i can say is does it make a driving difference... again like i said we drive each others all the time... I would be hard pressed to be able to point point a difference... the torsen and brembos in my opinion are more name drops for cash then anything. again all personal opinion im not here to tell anyone they are right or wrong cause no one isif your happy with what ya got great. IM just giving a counter point from 2 people who are less than impressed with the cost compared to what you get
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For a daily driver (which is how most people use their Mustangs - even with crap ton of so called go faster mods) - yes, little difference. For use for anything beyond that (track, autocross, whatever) - there absolutely is a difference (my previous car was '15 non-PP).this is what IM saying for what you pay ford for what you get, you can do way more in custom. The brembos ...eh... we have had the brakes and rotors off both cars and there isnt that much difference and when driving his are actually touchier (the brembos). as for stopping power again eh worth 5k??? not really. The brakes on non and pp1 are not really that big of a difference the oem are rather beefy. I cant speak to the torsen all i can say is does it make a driving difference... again like i said we drive each others all the time... I would be hard pressed to be able to point point a difference... the torsen and brembos in my opinion are more name drops for cash then anything. again all personal opinion im not here to tell anyone they are right or wrong cause no one isif your happy with what ya got great. IM just giving a counter point from 2 people who are less than impressed with the cost compared to what you get
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