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And the Fox body looks like a tarted up Escort...yet I still love them in all their boxy 80's glory.

68 is ny favorite year. My lottery winnings are totally buying me a Revology 68 Fastback :crackup:. Candy red with dual white stripes. I haven't put a lot of thought into this...
Aren't those cool or what!
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Anytime Pinto has ANYTHING to do with Mustang I think one can safely assume it just won't work out too well.
It's just weird. But hey, those were some weird times.
But if you stuff a coyote V8 in a Mustang 2 I'd bet that would be fun.
 

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Huh ? Classic look ? Whaddya mean? There's styling cues all over the 15-17 from the 1969 Mustang for sure. The 18+ front has too many angles. If I wanted angles, I'd buy a Cadillac. Also the grill is too 'squished' on the 18+. The MACH 1 front looks like Ford took some styling cues from SALEEN. Not bad, but not great.
I don’t get your comment.....
 
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The problems with Mustang II were not the body lines, although arguably a lot of the detail was cheap and unimaginative. I owned one for many years. Not much of a car, but I was fond of it.
This ^^^

Considering that nearly a whole foot was taken out of the wheelbase they did do a pretty good job of maintaining a Mustang family resemblance.


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Wasn't the gen2 '71-'73...and the mustang II not a "mustang" to fans?
There are some people who thing the ‘71-‘73s are too big and/or ugly but I don’t recall them being called “not a Mustang.” Personally, I love those years. I’d sell a kidney for a ‘71 Mach1. :). Ironically, they’re fairly comparable to an S550 in terms of size/weight.

As for the Mustang II, I’m just going to say it. They aren’t that bad. Ford went out in a limb to make a small/sporty car. It shared engineering with the Pinto which makes it seem cheap but the design was fine for the era. The front suspension design was the standard for countless hotrod builds, they still came with a V8 too. They also sold extremely well and were a big success at the time. The looks...no they’re not classically beautiful like the first gen but the Fox era cars are styled like the cardboard box that the parts came in! At least the Mustang II had some kind of style.

So it seems like the Mustang II is finally getting some love and respect as the people who hold onto the stigma pass on or lighten up. The appearance in Guardians of the Galaxy 2 portrayed this gen as “the car that cool guys drove in the disco era” may have kicked off the warming trend.

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You know, the II is the generation that should have skipped the faux "scoop" on the side - the version they sculpted there was way over-worked. Of course, I suppose without it the thing would have looked even more Pinto-like.
 

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Anytime Pinto has ANYTHING to do with Mustang I think one can safely assume it just won't work out too well.
The musclecar fans of the day never could bring themselves to understand the Pinto. No V8, not even a sixxer initially, and not very fast no matter which engine Ford put in it.

It had better than average styling for the time (and its subcompact category), and much better potential as a sports car/sport coupe. Better than most sports car fans were willing to give it credit for, and (to their discredit) Ford never really explored that direction for either the Pinto or the Mustang II.


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The musclecar fans of the day never could bring themselves to understand the Pinto. No V8, not even a sixxer initially, and not very fast no matter which engine Ford put in it.

It had better than average styling for the time (and its subcompact category), and much better potential as a sports car/sport coupe. Better than most sports car fans were willing to give it credit for, and (to their discredit) Ford never really explored that direction for either the Pinto or the Mustang II.

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Well there are Pinto’s and then there are PINTO’S......

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I prefer the '15-'17 when it comes to the S550, hands down.

And I'd have no trouble owning the blue Mustang II pictured above....
 

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I'm not very fussy about how a car looks; size and weight are more important to me... the less, the better. But, the Mustang II was just wrong, the proportions are way off. But, I've used Mustang II suspension parts on several cars, so they are good for parting out.
 

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I'm not very fussy about how a car looks; size and weight are more important to me... the less, the better. But, the Mustang II was just wrong, the proportions are way off.
There's only so much you can do when you cut nearly a foot out of the middle and still have to retain a semblance of sedan height. The Fox-body and its derivatives put about half of that missing length back but those cars still had a 'boxier' look about them than either the 1st gen cars that preceded the MII or the S197's that followed the New Edge.


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The musclecar fans of the day never could bring themselves to understand the Pinto. No V8, not even a sixxer initially, and not very fast no matter which engine Ford put in it.

It had better than average styling for the time (and its subcompact category), and much better potential as a sports car/sport coupe. Better than most sports car fans were willing to give it credit for, and (to their discredit) Ford never really explored that direction for either the Pinto or the Mustang II.


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Pinto = Vega less the explosive qualities of the former. I don't think anyone except fans of putting large engines in crappy economy cars and those who drove them out of necessity cared about either one of them.
Then came Ralph Nader and bye bye Pinto.
 

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Pinto = Vega less the explosive qualities of the former. I don't think anyone except fans of putting large engines in crappy economy cars and those who drove them out of necessity cared about either one of them.
Like I said, the car was under-appreciated by the musclecar crowd for the obvious reason (short of it being the basis for a V8 swap project) and the sports car people still tended to look down on anything that was U.S. Domestic.

A few recognized the car's potential as a sports car / autocross car, enough of us for small companies like Spearco to exist and for the various aftermarket sources of engine hard parts to develop products for the car as well.

The Mustang II by being a little bigger and somewhat heavier (and more nose-heavy) represented a weakening of the Pinto's strengths as a sports car in exchange for gaining a little street credibility when it finally got its proper V8.


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