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Catch can helps with deposits too
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The OP has a V6. I like Aeromotive pumps. You'll be fine with your GT500 pump.
I appreciate the feedback I know nothing about these fuel systems. I do plan to add a Holley Ultra Lo Ram manifold, VMP TwinJet 69mm and GT500 injectors. Staying NA I hadn’t planned to mess with the fuel pump. I’m just here to learn.
 

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Catch can helps with deposits too
I ran a Ford Performance catch can for a bit and then switched over to breather filters on the valve covers. I may switch back to the catch can in the future, but I would like to modify it first and add a simple drain system to it (maybe drill the bottom and install a drain valve and hose, similar to the Moroso catch can).

While on the subject of internal cleanliness, I’ll mention that my buddy is the owner of a BG Products distributorship here in FL and he keeps telling me that BG makes some really good products to clean the entire engine. So far, I’ve tried their fuel injector cleaner, tranny and diff. fluid. I’m gonna try their MOA treatment real soon and see what that does for the car. Apparently, it is now recommended by GM as part of their routine maintenance program, so we shall see how my Coyote likes it.

 
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I don’t know, but here’s a pic of my intake ports on my 2019 Bullitt with 5962 miles on it, during which I also ran 5-6 tanks of 93 fuel. I don’t think it looks too bad at all in the ports. It would be interesting to see what the intake ports look like on a car that has been on nothing but 93 fuel. Surely there’s several people on here with their intake manifolds off that can take some pics and post them here.

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Piston tops would be interesting too. Here's one from my car around 20K of pure 91 pump gas.
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Hi all
I leave in France.
I am the happy second french owner of a Mustang V6 2016 since 4 months.
I love it too much and also ask me who owns who? 😜
The first french owner imported it from Montréal Canada. He dont do anyting outside maintenance but Before we dont have any Information.
Without know tune i try to find the best mix E85/91. 20 by 20%
I follow in Real Time the short and Long fuel trim with the Torque Android application.
Actualy with second tank 80% E85 i have short +-5% and a long 17-21%. Without any error code.
Is that normal value for 80% E85 or a tune could be already installed?
The consumption at 50 mil/h stabilized is around 8.8l/62miles Of course on small roads of my deep France when i attack in turns its more 12-13 l.
If the short and Long fuel trim stay at this value, does 80% E85 represent a risk for my motor?
Thanks for your answer.
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Hi all
I leave in France.
I am the happy second french owner of a Mustang V6 2016 since 4 months.
I love it too much and also ask me who owns who? 😜
The first french owner imported it from Montréal Canada. He dont do anyting outside maintenance but Before we dont have any Information.
Without know tune i try to find the best mix E85/91. 20 by 20%
I follow in Real Time the short and Long fuel trim with the Torque Android application.
Actualy with second tank 80% E85 i have short +-5% and a long 17-21%. Without any error code.
Is that normal value for 80% E85 or a tune could be already installed?
The consumption at 50 mil/h stabilized is around 8.8l/62miles Of course on small roads of my deep France when i attack in turns its more 12-13 l.
If the short and Long fuel trim stay at this value, does 80% E85 represent a risk for my motor?
Thanks for your answer.
Best Regards
Jean-Luc
I don’t tune cars and didn’t tune my own car so this is all just based on my research but I would imagine you’d want either an E85 tune or one of the devices that plug into the OBD2 port to adjust fuel trims for E85. You won’t gain any power with this device but it will stop you from grenading your motor and will eliminate a CEL. At 80% ethanol you will certainly throw a CEL without this device as your long term fuel trims will go up to like 30%.
 

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Thanks SMS2022 for your answer but whats mean CEL and grenading? My english is not so good to understand.😢
 

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Thanks SMS2022 for your answer but whats mean CEL and grenading? My english is not so good to understand.😢
CEL = check engine light, grenading is slang for destroying your engine.

if I was you, I would get my own E85 tune if I really wanted to run E85 and wouldn’t gamble on thinking it had been tuned by the previous owner.
 

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You right. I have tried with 2 famous tuners. Same answer.
Since they couldn't save the original tune and be absolutly sure that's the stock tune, they didn't want to take any risks.
in case of a problem that could be very expensive to fix it
They explained to me that usual french tools dont known my ECU because the V6 was never imported by Ford France.
French tuners know only the Bosch ECUs for V8 and Ecoboost.
 

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You right. I have tried with 2 famous tuners. Same answer.
Since they couldn't save the original tune and be absolutly sure that's the stock tune, they didn't want to take any risks.
in case of a problem that could be very expensive to fix it
They explained to me that usual french tools dont known my ECU because the V6 was never imported by Ford France.
French tuners know only the Bosch ECUs for V8 and Ecoboost.
Interesting. Some tuners in the US will tune remotely. If it has a North American ECU they should be able to.
 

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Some device as SCT Bama can save and restore tune, but at the first connexion the tune need to be stock either nothing is possible.
Dimsport my genius can only read the id.

In all case If anyting is wrong with the new tune, the risk is to loose the ECU integrity with a return unpossible. That's mean New ECU, New counter and New keys. 3-4000 $. And to have chance to found in France a technicien to fix it.
I am not in USA.
 
 








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