Coyote Longevity Prospects

[Excelerater]

my F150,5.0 is clocked at 111K right now
regular maintenance,5K oil changes ,belts,coolant,tranny etc

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[99Zeus99]

My car is a 2018 with 22k and I have a rod knock, copper in the oil analysis. I'm getting ready to pull the engine and rebuild the short block. While we're on the subject, anyone know how many hours to remove the engine from my GT?

 

[KingKona]

My car is a 2018 with 22k and I have a rod knock, copper in the oil analysis. I'm getting ready to pull the engine and rebuild the short block. While we're on the subject, anyone know how many hours to remove the engine from my GT?

Why are you not letting Ford take care of your engine? It's covered under the 5/60 powertrain warranty.

 

[99Zeus99]

It was only 3yr/36000 when I bought it and I had a Whipple installed new when I bought it from Lebanon Ford in Ohio. I doubt Ford give a flying flip about honoring anything anyway. I'll still send them borescope pics and oil analysis to prove their shitty quality control. The last time I contacted them, I got a form letter in return basically telling me to get bent. I service their business jets and have much more integrity in my work apparently. I knew it was a gamble with the plasma coated block and Gen 3 engine. Thankfully my 2019 F150 is good, no issues. Same Coyote engine minus the cam profile.

 

[Qcman17]

It was only 3yr/36000 when I bought it and I had a Whipple installed new when I bought it from Lebanon Ford in Ohio. I doubt Ford give a flying flip about honoring anything anyway. I'll still send them borescope pics and oil analysis to prove their shitty quality control. The last time I contacted them, I got a form letter in return basically telling me to get bent. I service their business jets and have much more integrity in my work apparently. I knew it was a gamble with the plasma coated block and Gen 3 engine. Thankfully my 2019 F150 is good, no issues. Same Coyote engine minus the cam profile.

That’s a highly modified car so I don’t think that’s a good representation of the gen 3 Coyote. I’m sorry to hear of your problems but you took the modified gamble and lost unfortunately.

 

[99Zeus99]

Yes. I knew that going in but doesn't change the fact that Ford has had plenty of similar issues with non modified cars. Doubling hp you seldom use doesn't excuse bad manufacturing. I track my car but don't launch it or otherwise abuse it. Has stock tires, proper maintenance. It most likely has spun a bearing causing the knock. Will know in a few weeks. I will rebuild it properly and continue to enjoy the car. Everything but the drivetrain has 8 yr warranty.

 

[Bornfairview29]

What does the hive mind say about the long-term prospects for Coyote engines? I'm not talking outright lemons or failures on the track or from other hard use, but 'normal' driving with occasional mild hooning. I'd like to hear from owners with 100K or more miles on their cars, of any generation of Coyote but especially the Gen 3.

I traded-in my '08 Bullitt with the 4.6L for my '19 Bullitt at 124K miles. All I did for the 4.6 was change oil and filter at 6K miles, changed air and cabin filters when needed and put in new plugs at about 90K miles, and of course tires. After break-in it used about a quart of 5W-20 between changes of mostly highway miles. I may have changed brake fluid once but don't recall for sure, and I put Royal Purple SynchroMesh in the gearbox early on. It ran flawlessly right up until trade-in, and still had the original clutch and brake pads with plenty of meat on them.

The new Bullitt has been relegated to mostly long road trip usage as I have a couple other DDs and a couple old British sports cars to play with. It currently has about 20K miles and will likely only get a couple thousand miles a year. I get free oil changes from the dealer at 5mos/5K miles, but I only take it in when the oil gets a bit dark (I'm guessing it's also using 1qt/6K miles). I'm 69YO and expect (hope) to drive this car until 'the end.'

Something you need to remember, it’s the same design that’s in the f150 that regularly goes 220k+ miles. It’s just weird to me that people think these are delicate cars…

 

[luc]

Something you need to remember, it’s the same design that’s in the f150 that regularly goes 220k+ miles. It’s just weird to me that people think these are delicate cars…

Sustained high rpm’s seems to be the weak point of those engines. A lot more coyote engine have issues on a road
Course than gm for sure
Not a scenario likely to be seen on a truck

 

[Garfy]

IMO the engine is the least of your worries. The other electronics and associated control units are more likely to bite you.

I agree completely. You know how once a vehicle is 10 years old (or less in some cases) the parts from OEM are "obsolete"; you can't get a replacement. So unless the aftermarket has one, you're out of luck with a very large paperweight (especially if it's something very critical like the PCM or BCM, etc.) That's my greatest concern with these new vehicles. I counted 22 electronic systems on my 2020 GT (per the Snap-On scanner).

 

[luca1290]

I agree completely. You know how once a vehicle is 10 years old (or less in some cases) the parts from OEM are "obsolete"; you can't get a replacement. So unless the aftermarket has one, you're out of luck with a very large paperweight (especially if it's something very critical like the PCM or BCM, etc.) That's my greatest concern with these new vehicles. I counted 22 electronic systems on my 2020 GT (per the Snap-On scanner).

It's 10 years after production was ceased, not at 10 years of age of the vehicle.
But anyway Ford does not make these ECU themselves (the ECM is a Bosch one, for example).
And the Mustang was sold in the millions, also many spare parts are common to many other lineups.

I guess it will take a lot of years before you couldn't find any new spare parts. There are still parts around for '64 cars, so...

 

[Garfy]

It's 10 years after production was ceased, not at 10 years of age of the vehicle.
But anyway Ford does not make these ECU themselves (the ECM is a Bosch one, for example).
And the Mustang was sold in the millions, also many spare parts are common to many other lineups.

I guess it will take a lot of years before you couldn't find any new spare parts. There are still parts around for '64 cars, so...

True, but the '64-1/2 through '66 Mustangs are the "classic collectibles" so you can actually obtain new body parts and stuff since I read somewhere that someone bought the molds and such from Ford to make replacement parts. I'm not so sure I'd be able to find some of the electronic modules for my 2020 say 25 years from now (not that I'd still be alive) ;-)

 

[luca1290]

True, but the '64-1/2 through '66 Mustangs are the "classic collectibles" so you can actually obtain new body parts and stuff since I read somewhere that someone bought the molds and such from Ford to make replacement parts. I'm not so sure I'd be able to find some of the electronic modules for my 2020 say 25 years from now (not that I'd still be alive) ;-)

Only time will tell, but the S550 is probably the second better looking Mustang in all it's history and the most sold sports car for the last few years worldwide.
Why not?
Anyway, let's not get bogged down about such a distant future.

 

[gadgtfreek]

I know someone that uses F150 fleet trucks, they said the biggest thing they see is the 10spd auto needing work around 150-160k miles as an average in their experience.

 

[MX5Racer]

I would be more concerned with IF you'll actually be able to drive it and/or be able to put gasoline in it! Seems the global mission now is to outlaw all ICE engine sales by 2030. Won't be much longer after that you won't be able to register/insure them.

 

[99Zeus99]

1969-1970 best body style. 1967-1968 second. S550 third best. I luckily own two of the three.

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