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As long as you don't get ACC it should have the matching fang grills.
do you absolutely, without a doubt, know this for certain????

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As long as you don't get ACC it should have the matching fang grills.
Has that been positively confirmed? Or is that still just a theory?

At any rate, I have a feeling that lower grill will probably not be very noticeable from most normal viewing perspectives anyway. Most of these photos are taken at bumper level, which is not really a common angle to view the car in the real world. Anyway, just my opinion. I get that this stuff is more important to some than others. Plus, what else we got to do right now than stare at these pictures and obsess over little details? ;)
 

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do you absolutely, without a doubt, know this for certain????

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nobody knows anything for certain....which apparently includes Ford :frusty: Hence my use of the word "should"

I don't see why they wouldn't use the fang bottom grill though, unless it is some late cost-cutting change but I doubt they'd do that to people after showing it off so much. The only reason for the other grill is ACC so it is a reasonable assumption, based on the rest of this thread.
 

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I would swear alot of people are theorists on this forum

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I would swear alot of people are theorists on this forum

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You want theories, check out the HP and (before it was released) weight threads! :D

The beginning of this thread makes reasonable assumptions, based on other Ford products along with what we've seen of the 2015 Mustangs so far. Granted they're all pre-production and subject to change, but that's all we have to go with until the car is actually in dealer lots, because apparently Ford is useless at giving us concrete information.
 

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You want theories, check out the HP and (before it was released) weight threads! :D

The beginning of this thread makes reasonable assumptions, based on other Ford products along with what we've seen of the 2015 Mustangs so far. Granted they're all pre-production and subject to change, but that's all we have to go with until the car is actually in dealer lots, because apparently Ford is useless at giving us concrete information.
yeah die hards there for sure but still the final is not released... finding out the little tidbits & details here and there is lil like asking your 3yo if they wiped their butt after taking a dump... especially if you did not see it for yourself...it's a new car with new tech so no one really knows at all but ford unless you checked their drawers[emoji2]

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Obviously everyone has their own priorities, but I personally would not ditch a potentially valuable safety feature (collision mitigation) just for the sake of an (arguably) minor improvement in the looks of a part of the car that is not even going to be noticeable most of the time.

People should keep in mind that most of the photos used in this thread were pretty much taken at bumper level. That is great for illustrating different visual aspects of the car for marketing, but not a normal perspective from which to view the car under most circumstances. The car is almost always going to be viewed from a higher perspective, and IMO the differences in that area of the bumper are simply not going to be that noticeable, especially considering it's all just dark/black detailing anyway.

Anyway, I get that in the absence of information and access to the cars themselves, we're all doomed to sit here and over-analyze every tiny detail of every photo (I know I've done my share). I just think people need to be sure to keep some of these little details in perspective. It's interesting forum material to highlight some of these differences, but some of the stuff that's being nit picked and obsessed over really is not going to matter much in the scheme of things later on once the car is in our driveways and we're done going over every aspect of its features with a fine toothed comb. :)
It will still have cross-traffic warning, etc. so there are plenty of innovative safety features in my Stang. It will be fully loaded minus the ACC.
 
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I've made it 47 years without ACC and Collision Mitigation. I personally like to feel like I'm In Control of the Car, not just along for the ride.
 

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Collision mitigation is just something for people who really don't pay much attention to the road... Usually the ones that absolutely can't wait to talk to someone and yack their heads off on the cell phone.. We have all seen those people, I see them every day and ticks me off esp the ones hanging over the steering wheel texting.... for a manual, this feature I find difficult because for one, I dont think that there is some sort of auto clutch when the system engages braking and also, as stated on ford, shall not be used in the better judgement of driving. You can't rely on it. I agree with Tampa on this. I like control and the thrill of driving, passing, weaving around traffic and staying away from the "packs" I would hardly use it if I had it in medium to hard traffic anyways.
 

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I guess that's one way to look at it.

I've never rear-ended another car <knock on wood>, but I've ordered all the safety features. I guess I'm just throwing away my money. However, anything that gives a little extra safety net is something I'm in favor of. In addition to that, I expect my liability insurance will be slightly less by having this feature on the car.

Will I ever use the ACC or collision mitigation? Not likely, based on my driving history. But shit happens.
 

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I've made it 47 years without ACC and Collision Mitigation. I personally like to feel like I'm In Control of the Car, not just along for the ride.
You also made it several of those years without airbags, possibly seatbelts, crush zones, steel bumpers....could go on and on......

Collision mitigation is just something for people who really don't pay much attention to the road... Usually the ones that absolutely can't wait to talk to someone and yack their heads off on the cell phone.. We have all seen those people, I see them every day and ticks me off esp the ones hanging over the steering wheel texting.... for a manual, this feature I find difficult because for one, I dont think that there is some sort of auto clutch when the system engages braking and also, as stated on ford, shall not be used in the better judgement of driving. You can't rely on it. I agree with Tampa on this. I like control and the thrill of driving, passing, weaving around traffic and staying away from the "packs" I would hardly use it if I had it in medium to hard traffic anyways.
From what I understand in the Mustang anyway, it only starts to apply the brakes, giving the user a "wake up" moment. Some cars units will fully stop the car, but like you said with a manual that just isn't possible and from what I heard the Ford units aren't quite that sophisticated (some like Volvo's are a lot more expensive units).

Everyone is human, we all get distracted in different ways (kids in back seat, changing radio stations, etc.) and sometimes the cars in front of us block our view of hazards or at night a deer pops in front of you. I don't mind paying a little more for a bonus safety feature even if I never have to use it (kind of like the gun next to my bed!) :D
 

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Collision mitigation is just something for people who really don't pay much attention to the road... Usually the ones that absolutely can't wait to talk to someone and yack their heads off on the cell phone.. We have all seen those people, I see them every day and ticks me off esp the ones hanging over the steering wheel texting.... for a manual, this feature I find difficult because for one, I dont think that there is some sort of auto clutch when the system engages braking and also, as stated on ford, shall not be used in the better judgement of driving. You can't rely on it. I agree with Tampa on this. I like control and the thrill of driving, passing, weaving around traffic and staying away from the "packs" I would hardly use it if I had it in medium to hard traffic anyways.
Bah, come on. You've never lost focus or been distracted ever, while driving? Passenger talking to you? Even with complete hands-free SYNC, listening to a conference call can sometimes be a little distracting. Ok, one could argue that you shouldn't do that while driving, but then, why offer bluetooth in a car, period?

This is a POTENTIAL assistant, hence the word mitigation. If there is a chance that it saves a life, it's worth the price of admission. Going a few MPH slower and still having the collision could be the difference between someone living or dying. People are unpredictable too. Someone could easily cut you off on the highway, and then slam on the brakes, giving you almost no time to respond.

Look, I'm all for the reality and pureness of a driving experience. Turning all the Nannies off and really having control, but you can do that and still have the ability to shave off a few MPH before a collision. IMO, it's not the same kind of intrusion that ESC or TC is.
 

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LOL, GiddyUP! Looks like we were both responding at virtually the same time.
 

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You also made it several of those years without airbags, possibly seatbelts, crush zones, steel bumpers....could go on and on......

Everyone is human, we all get distracted in different ways (kids in back seat, changing radio stations, etc.) and sometimes the cars in front of us block our view of hazards or at night a deer pops in front of you. I don't mind paying a little more for a bonus safety feature even if I never have to use it (kind of like the gun next to my bed!) :D
Bah, come on. You've never lost focus or been distracted ever, while driving? Passenger talking to you? Even with complete hands-free SYNC, listening to a conference call can sometimes be a little distracting. Ok, one could argue that you shouldn't do that while driving, but then, why offer bluetooth in a car, period?

This is a POTENTIAL assistant, hence the word mitigation. If there is a chance that it saves a life, it's worth the price of admission. Going a few MPH slower and still having the collision could be the difference between someone living or dying. People are unpredictable too. Someone could easily cut you off on the highway, and then slam on the brakes, giving you almost no time to respond.

Look, I'm all for the reality and pureness of a driving experience. Turning all the Nannies off and really having control, but you can do that and still have the ability to shave off a few MPH before a collision. IMO, it's not the same kind of intrusion that ESC or TC is.
Well said.

I don't care how good of a driver some people think they are, or how immune they think they are to distractions. Good drivers die at the wheel every day. Stuff happens. These features are simply another layer of 'insurance.' As with any safety measure, we hope they are never needed. But when they are, they are priceless...
 

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Collision mitigation is just something for people who really don't pay much attention to the road...
I don't agree with this characterization of this driver assist. I see it as insurance in the small chance that an alert and engaged driver needs it.
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