Different Grilles Explained

[Amaury]

As long as you don't get ACC it should have the matching fang grills.

In the build, the GT retains the normal fin grills when you select the ACC, now, if you select the 50th aniversary appearance package, then it changes. I really believe that with the ACC, the grills wont change unless you get the 50th Aniv or the 50TH Aniv Appr Pack.

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[Seabee1973]

Bah, come on. You've never lost focus or been distracted ever, while driving? Passenger talking to you? Even with complete hands-free SYNC, listening to a conference call can sometimes be a little distracting. Ok, one could argue that you shouldn't do that while driving, but then, why offer bluetooth in a car, period?

This is a POTENTIAL assistant, hence the word mitigation. If there is a chance that it saves a life, it's worth the price of admission. Going a few MPH slower and still having the collision could be the difference between someone living or dying. People are unpredictable too. Someone could easily cut you off on the highway, and then slam on the brakes, giving you almost no time to respond.

Look, I'm all for the reality and pureness of a driving experience. Turning all the Nannies off and really having control, but you can do that and still have the ability to shave off a few MPH before a collision. IMO, it's not the same kind of intrusion that ESC or TC is.

I don't deny the fact of ever being distracted, I have... Also the habit of just driving somewhere that I forgot to make an exit. I do use bluetooth yet with a repeater/ none of my vehicles have them built in and sometime is a chore finding that open FM station to listen to my music. I rarely chat on the phone when driving much less texting or anything else. 95% of the time I am alone in the vehicle to do whatever (mostly work)

Correct me if I am wrong but isn't the collision mitigation only engaged when you are using cruise control? I think it is... Only time I really get to use cruise control is when traffic is very light which is in the evenings and extremely early (0330) where there is almost no traffic at all. Yes, it can be a safety item but it is not a 100% on/passive safety system in the vehicle such as ABS. Passive antitheft systems or any other normally on ESP and traction control systems. I do not rely heavily on cruise control at all using manual transmission unless it is on the highway. I find it rather easy controlling speed in MT though its just me knowing my vehicle.
People are unpredictable, many distracted and for every time I have had a near collision it was always the other driver HOLDING the phone at their ear or texting at the same time as driving along with a few READING! It is totally innexcusable when you are at a red light and getting reared especially when they were stopped too, and yes SHE was on the phone. That happened within 6 months after picking up my truck and also getting home from Iraq.... Also had a near collision when another girl kept moving into and continued to move in my lane forcing me off to the median.. THAT was within a month of picking up the truck and being home.. Forgive my acute PTSD at the time but I tailgated her for over 10 miles.. But anyways.. It really can't control the people that are next to you in any circumstance with collision mitigation... Always keeping am eye off the distance and whatever is around me and expecting it to happen and most all times my predictions were dead on... Hell, I still avoid boxes and other things that just don't seem to belong on any road... Call me crazy but too many close calls with IED's and seen how many were concealed is scary as hell.. I mean, even a traffic cone... within reason.
I can tell you though I am way more alert now than I ever was before Iraq or driving in Kuwait.. If you were ever there, you would understand
Some driving in Iraq seemed safer as compared to here... Too many idiots on the road.. Rubber neckers and the people that just gotta go 30mph in a 60 on the highway because they see a cop sitting there trying to catch speeders...lol Grrrr.. Rambling here...lol I get your point though

 

[JoeDogInKC]

Ok, interesting point on it possibly being tied into Cruise Control. I had admittedly assumed that it was not tied to that, because of how the Dealer Guide reads. Looking back at it, they are listed separately in a way that is questionable on exactly how it does work. Yet another thing we need clarification on... *sigh*

 

[souprmage]

Actually, no it's not tied to using the Cruise Control.

Collision Mitigation also isn't some magic bullet going to stop the car for you. Essentially what it does is sense that a dangerous situation is imminent, and it generates a warning and pre-presurizes the brakes so the instant you lift the gas, they're ready to react. It may not be much, but it's precious milliseconds that slow you that much more quickly.

It's not like some of the more advanced technologies that will apply the brakes for you and take control away from you. It can also be disabled if it becomes distracting.

From: http://corporate.ford.com/microsites/sustainability-report-2011-12/vehicle-technologies-avoidance

Seems like it's a bit old, but from what others have said, this is essentially the system that'll be on the Mustang. Not sure if there are any improvements to it or not.

Ford’s Collision Warning with Brake Support technology activates a visual and audible warning when the system detects a high risk of collision with the vehicle in front. In addition, the brake system is pre-tensioned and the “servo boost” assistance system is modulated to provide faster brake performance (e.g., as soon as the driver lifts the gas pedal), if required by the driver. Range and speed information are sensed with long-range radar mounted on the front of the vehicle. Collision Warning with Brake Support can be activated or deactivated as the driver wishes. If the sensor becomes blocked by snow, ice or mud, the driver will receive a notice of reduced or suspended functionality. This technology is available in North America on the Ford Taurus, Edge and Explorer and the Lincoln MKS, MKX and MKT, and in Europe on the Ford Mondeo, S-MAX, Galaxy and Focus. The technology will also be available on the new 2013 Ford Fusion in North America.

 

[JoeDogInKC]

Yeah, I knew it didn't automagically apply the brakes for you, but I can still save it shaving inches/feet/MPH off of a potential crash.

 

[souprmage]

Yeah, I knew it didn't automagically apply the brakes for you, but I can still save it shaving inches/feet/MPH off of a potential crash.

Which is actually why I added 52S to my car. Just ACC wouldn't have really been enough to justify $1k, but having the warning and primed brakes just in case I ever need it definitely is worth it to me.

 

[JoeDogInKC]

Which is actually why I added 52S to my car. Just ACC wouldn't have really been enough to justify $1k, but having the warning and primed brakes just in case I ever need it definitely is worth it to me.

Yup, same thing here.

 

[Seabee1973]

Ok, interesting point on it possibly being tied into Cruise Control. I had admittedly assumed that it was not tied to that, because of how the Dealer Guide reads. Looking back at it, they are listed separately in a way that is questionable on exactly how it does work. Yet another thing we need clarification on... *sigh*

I think that is why they call it Adaptive Cruise Control with Collision Mitigation

 

[Seabee1973]

Reading all that posted now... still not keen on it, sure would suck in adverse weather unless you turned it off

 

[Madlock]

Supposedly the limited edition does not come with adaptive cruise control, so I don't get why everyone thinks that is the ACC lower grill.

Not "supposedly" it doesn't. The same is true of a handful of other tremendously useful and convenient features like a backup camera which, like senselessly excluding such similar useful or convenient items like power and/or heated Recaro seats, a backup camera and every other technology Ford is embedding in most vehicles nowadays from a $70,000 vehicle like GT500, only foments resentment among the most loyal and willing buyers to pay a premium for what are supposedly "special" models.

Let's also not forget shortening the gearing for Automatics, but denying them a Torsen which helps make a car turn so well. Does Ford actually think it wouldn't have sold all 1,964 cars just as quickly if they would've cost $2,000-$3,000 more? If merely selling very few of something was the only criterion for a vehicle becoming special, collector garages would be filled with Suzuki Kizashis.

Ford has always been a horrible packager of groups and freestanding options. Maximizing economies of scale has been a critical pillar of Ford's successful reinvention (to date), but it's quickly reaching the point of diminishing returns at which the amount of future product reinvestment Ford makes will outstrip how widely it's able to implement a common core of components. As any Taurus SHO owner who can't combine the Performance Package with Adaptive Cruise. Ford then went one step further after offering Park Assist for a single model year (a GREAT feature for protecting wheels) by packaging it with Adaptive Cruise and excluding BOTH from Performance Package cars for 2014 and 2015. I won't even mention forcing summer-only tires on buyers in North Dakota.

Ford has taught its customers to starting to expecting more, consistent with the price premiums Ford has started to impose. "No good reason" excuses for not accepting buyers money for features they'd otherwise happily pay for just won't fly for much longer if Ford hopes to trade upon more than merely being the only U.S. maker that didn't off itself.

The same is especially true of Lincoln which only ever will go so far as long as it continues to rely exclusively upon shared FWD and FWD-biased AWD Ford products if it ever again hopes to be seriously considered as a luxury brand. Ford seems willing to go miles out of its way to save a few hundred dollars per unit of engineering and manufacturing costs by denying customers the option to gladly spend thousands more per vehicle. The icing on the cake are decisions like the one Ford has announced for the new '15 Edge which will see Europe and Asia receive much more technologically advanced instrument clusters because consumers in those markets supposedly are more "sophisticated". Treat customers like rubes and they'll start acting like them - or go to someone who treats them better.

I'm REALLY on the fence about the 50 LE. It's a car I want because it's how Ford has chosen to commemorate its 50th Anniversary, but not particularly because it's a product I'd have otherwise chosen to buy. A fully-optioned GT premium will be a much better and more affordable overall vehicle to own whether its intended purpose is a daily driver, touring car or track machine with 90% of the LE Appearance. For me, the 50 LE will be a car that ONLY makes sense to cover and park because I have a loaded '14 GT Premium as a daily driver that I'd trade for a '15 GT Premium of the S550 proves to be so much better.

It's really a shame for any option to be excluded from what's supposed to be a milestone model - which was done only for one plausible reason, to make them cheaper and easier to produce when this is the one occasion when buyers are most willing to throw value propositions out the window. As much of a die hard Ford supporter as I may be and of Mustang in particular, it's becoming harder and harder with each passing year as the variety of options improve but Ford refuses to allow them to be freely-combinable and for each higher trim level to be a complete superset of lower ones.

I'll be glad to have a 50 LE car, but it's not one I'm looking forward to owning with any great deal of excitement.

 

[Wild Stang]

Not "supposedly" it doesn't. The same is true of a handful of other tremendously useful and convenient features like a backup camera which, like senselessly excluding such similar useful or convenient items like power and/or heated Recaro seats, a backup camera and every other technology Ford is embedding in most vehicles nowadays from a $70,000 vehicle like GT500, only foments resentment among the most loyal and willing buyers to pay a premium for what are supposedly "special" models.

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The only options that are not on the LE are adaptive cruise control and the rear parking assist sensors. It comes with a backup camera. The seats aren't Recaros because original Mustangs didn't come with anything like Recaros (this is a 50th anniversary tribute car). But the seats that are coming with it are indeed heated and cooled.

 

[Madlock]

The only options that are not on the LE are adaptive cruise control and the rear parking assist sensors. It comes with a backup camera. The seats aren't Recaros because original Mustangs didn't come with anything like Recaros (this is a 50th anniversary tribute car). But the seats that are coming with it are indeed heated and cooled.

I stand clarified. I intended to mention the backup camera only as an example of the extent to which GT500 has been decontented to vehicles' and owners detriment. Though the fact that the LE 50th car will include a backup camera but NOT reverse sensors is all the more asinine.

I highly doubt the Recaro omission had ANYTHING to do with 1964 1/2. After all, Kona Blue wasn't around back then despite Ford choosing to make a signature characteristic of the LE 50th (nor was navigation, SYNC, pony projector lamps, blah, blah blah). It's about one interior choice, one seat, one color configuration, one vendor, and one lowest possible price for the relatively small number of seat skins Ford will source.

Though personally, if Ford is willing to allow enough flexibility to offer an automatic (despite hobbling the handling relative to a manual by sticking to a conventional LSD rather than a Torsen), it certainly could've allowed buyers the choice of Recaros at whatever premium they actually would've cost. Just like the additional cost of incorporating a Torsen, this isn't the kind of car people are buying for the sake of the compromises they're looking to make.

In fact, Ford easily could've rounded up the price to an even $50K (which would've been perfect for the occasion) and included POWER Recaros, Adaptive Cruise and an automatic (WITH Torsen) as a no-cost option.

It's a shame it stopped short AT ALL for what it claims to be a signature commemorative vehicle.

 

[kulfyur]

I stand clarified. I intended to mention the backup camera only as an example of the extent to which GT500 has been decontented to vehicles' and owners detriment. Though the fact that the LE 50th car will include a backup camera but NOT reverse sensors is all the more asinine.

I agree.

I highly doubt the Recaro omission had ANYTHING to do with 1964 1/2. After all, Kona Blue wasn't around back then despite Ford choosing to make a signature characteristic of the LE 50th (nor was navigation, SYNC, pony projector lamps, blah, blah blah). It's about one interior choice, one seat, one color configuration, one vendor, and one lowest possible price for the relatively small number of seat skins Ford will source.

I agree; however, I think the omission of Recaro seats has more to do with an overall wider appeal. I feel like the car was meant to revolved around both performance and luxury. Correct me if im wrong (I know very little about recaros) but Recaro seats are more performance based yes? Both in appearance and functionality? However the seats currently included are more luxurious and comfortable. (and imo look much better and more suited for the interior) I think they chose to lean more towards luxury here because lets be honest, most will be stored in a garage and almost never driven, or driven very lightly, or driven on a regular basis as an everyday driver. Very few, IF any, will make it to a track. I think that's why the decision was made

Though personally, if Ford is willing to allow enough flexibility to offer an automatic (despite hobbling the handling relative to a manual by sticking to a conventional LSD rather than a Torsen), it certainly could've allowed buyers the choice of Recaros at whatever premium they actually would've cost. Just like the additional cost of incorporating a Torsen, this isn't the kind of car people are buying for the sake of the compromises they're looking to make.

Yea, i agree they COULD HAVE, but i feel like this one options thing had a lot more to do with making a cookie cutter car. It's supposed to be a collectors' vehicle. So I feel like it's supposed to be the same for the sake of them all being equal and essentially valued the same. I also feel that the only reason that the automatic is even an options is because not everyone can drive a standard. And they want people to have the option to put this car on the streets no matter what driving style you have.

In fact, Ford easily could've rounded up the price to an even $50K (which would've been perfect for the occasion) and included POWER Recaros, Adaptive Cruise and an automatic (WITH Torsen) as a no-cost option.

I agree but I personally don't like recaros lol.

It's a shame it stopped short AT ALL for what it claims to be a signature commemorative vehicle.

Agreed.

 

[FordService]

As long as you don't get ACC it should have the matching fang grills.

do you absolutely, without a doubt, know this for certain????

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Has that been positively confirmed? Or is that still just a theory?

At any rate, I have a feeling that lower grill will probably not be very noticeable from most normal viewing perspectives anyway. Most of these photos are taken at bumper level, which is not really a common angle to view the car in the real world. Anyway, just my opinion. I get that this stuff is more important to some than others. Plus, what else we got to do right now than stare at these pictures and obsess over little details? ;)

Hey guys!

I’ve been trying to get some more info on the grilles with the ACC and unfortunately nothing has been officially released for me to share with you guys.

In the meantime, it’s the waiting game.

I’ll be here if you need me and if you have order info for me to track.

Have a great day!

Tricia

 

[scottpe]

The owners manual revealed the exact location of the sensor. But unfortunately it still doesn't confirm whether a specific lower fascia is required...

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