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Hi

Just an fyi.
I was super unhappy with the clutch particularly consistent bite, gear change from 1st to 2nd, jerking etc.

For some background, I am from Europe have driven manuals all my life. Over 35 years of stick shift driving! I am pretty proud of how smoothly I can drive a car, while making progress. In the Bullitt I was jerking, slipping the clutch, mistiming the gear changes generally driving like a kid 3 months out of driving school.

At first I put it down to getting used to the car, maybe my seat position was weird, the gear box was notchy, etc etc.

Drove nearly 1000km (625m) and although my muscle memory was dialed in i was still just not getting it right. And for me the allure of the Bullitt was the non forced induction engine, manual shifting, man and machine in harmony making rapid progress.

But it was turning into a love hate relationship.

Until I read here and elsewhere about the helper spring. Less than a minute of tinkering and the helper spring was in my tool chest and I was ready for a test drive.

OMG what a difference! I'm back! Takeoffs were positive and smooth, 2nd gear came easily without jumps or jerks, 3rd was a dream. OK the gear box isn't the sweetest changing gearbox in the world and you have to take the transition from one gear to another in a deliberate fashion, almost pausing for an instant in neutral, before continuing the motion to the next gear. But still. I ripped off from a set of lights, full throttle, short changing at 3000 rpm (don't need a ticket) and it was like night and day.

To anyone struggling try it, whether or not you need a steeda replacement light spring I will leave to others to debate. As a committed stick shift driver with decades of experience under my belt driving all sorts of cars from all sorts of manufacturers this is the first time I ever doubted myself and the solution was dramatic and awesome.

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Check your clutch cylinder line as well, if it's coming off it will endlessly let air into the system. And it's a common issue. You may think its better with the spring but it should have been smooth before..
 
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will do

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I felt the same way as the OP initially, but I'm at about 95% smoothness on the 1-2 shift, which is the hardest indeed. And only 300 miles (and most highway). With the rest of the shifts, my passenger could be holding a cup of coffee without spilling it :D. I'm really liking the clutch now. Ha ha. Initially it felt like a light switch (compared to the Porsche), but now I think it has enough take up. Weird. And I'm glad, because I want to teach my 2 girls to drive manual, and the lighter clutch will help them. I'm also happy with the tranny; feels great to me. Better than the Porsche, and both are Getrags, simply because that one has a cable linkage, and ours is a rod linkage. Feels very mechanical; just the way I like it. Only 3rd is a bit notchy, but it's minimal when fully hot, and it might go away with use.
 

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Same here, Ive driven manual or stick cars for most of my life in UK, but for the last 6 years Ive had an auto,

I was putting the horrible 1st to 2nd changes down to my lack of recent experience, but honestly its not getting much better, I might need to make this mod, I can accept a slight heaving feel in return for a consistent feel
 
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Same here, Ive driven manual or stick cars for most of my life in UK, but for the last 6 years Ive had an auto,

I was putting the horrible 1st to 2nd changes down to my lack of recent experience, but honestly its not getting much better, I might need to make this mod, I can accept a slight heaving feel in return for a consistent feel
Learned to drive in Ireland did my driving test in Manchester, UK, miss twisties. It's an easy job to put the spring back in if you don't like it, but I bet you won't :)
 

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Learned to drive in Ireland did my driving test in Manchester, UK, miss twisties. It's an easy job to put the spring back in if you don't like it, but I bet you won't :)
I hear you, roundabouts, twisties, unrestricted county roads, ahh life was fun back then, no idea how I'm still alive to tell the tales :-)

Just ordered it, will report back once Ive I've installed and done a few miles, but hoping that weird, mushy, inconsistent bite point is resolved
 

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I felt the same way as the OP initially, but I'm at about 95% smoothness on the 1-2 shift, which is the hardest indeed. And only 300 miles (and most highway). With the rest of the shifts, my passenger could be holding a cup of coffee without spilling it :D. I'm really liking the clutch now. Ha ha. Initially it felt like a light switch (compared to the Porsche), but now I think it has enough take up. Weird. And I'm glad, because I want to teach my 2 girls to drive manual, and the lighter clutch will help them. I'm also happy with the tranny; feels great to me. Better than the Porsche, and both are Getrags, simply because that one has a cable linkage, and ours is a rod linkage. Feels very mechanical; just the way I like it. Only 3rd is a bit notchy, but it's minimal when fully hot, and it might go away with use.
Same here. I toughed it out and am about the same around 95% smooth on the 1-2 shift now. My rational is Ford put it in like that for a reason, and I just had to learn to drive it.
 

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Hi - I too have lots of standard tranny experience. I’ll admit that it was a bit of an adjustment to get used to the clutch initially, but by a couple of hundred miles I became comfortable with it. I have a bad left knee and my only question is, does anyone make a spring that makes the clutch easier to push in and engage. My ‘90s Honda had the easiest of all my cars. Steeda told me theirs is stiffer than the standard spring. Thanks for any input... Bruce
 

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I had all the same issues. The steeda spring fixed all that. The clutch feels so much better now, can actually feel whats going on with it.
 
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Check your clutch cylinder line as well, if it's coming off it will endlessly let air into the system. And it's a common issue. You may think its better with the spring but it should have been smooth before..
Mine was about 3/8ths back and when I wiped the coupler came away with brake fluid. pushed it back on and secured with a ziplock.

Added to my steeda cart with rails and a spring just to see if it makes a difference
 

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Mine was about 3/8ths back and when I wiped the coupler came away with brake fluid. pushed it back on and secured with a ziplock.

Added to my steeda cart with rails and a spring just to see if it makes a difference

I've been driving stick for 34 years. 19 Bullitt clutch feel is certainly different, yes felt like I had to relearn.

Spring was my first mod, def makes a difference, feels much better. :thumbsup:
 

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The OEM spring is crazy too strong and will push the pedal back way to hard. On a positive side we develop muscle in the leg LOL... joke aside it's the first mod I did on the car, Steeda spring helped I can now feel the clutch engagement .

As the other said, check the clutch line from the Master cylinder reservoir on my brand new 2020 it was 1.5cm away from it. I just pushed it back and installed a small tie wrap on it.. waiting to modify to a separate reservoir for the clutch oil...
 

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Installed mine yesterday, 1st impression was an immediate improvement in feel, but literally just drove around the neighborhood. Finally got to do a drive out today and OMG it feels so much better, way more control over pedal and a more consistent engagement point.
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