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Most likely. My car was built without the modem (I got a $20 credit! 🤭), so I guess I lucked out there. I haven’t dug any deeper to see if it’s truly not there or if they just say it’s not.
The production shortage modem and the one we are referencing are different things. The opt out one allowed mobile hotspot which I never knew was an option for Mustang. The other modem allows the sync connectivity and FordPass, you won't miss it when it's gone unless you love your FordPass app.
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on an s550, pulling the modem will not cause issues. If I read the codes, I will see that the modem listed, but it won't throw a CEL. It will just sit there in the background.
Correct, but with the new S650 being fully networked, will pulling the modem brick (or potentially brick) the car since it supposedly signals back to Ford that it’s been tampered with? I’m not an IT expert by any means so I have no idea if that impacts these fully networked cars at all. It very well may not, I just don’t know how everything is intertwined in the new cars (and maybe nobody really knows yet since they’re just starting to ship this week)
 

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The production shortage modem and the one we are referencing are different things. The opt out one allowed mobile hotspot which I never knew was an option for Mustang. The other modem allows the sync connectivity and FordPass, you won't miss it when it's gone unless you love your FordPass app.
Got it, I just assumed they were all the same. I don’t mind the FordPass app and honestly the amount of data that Apple, Google, etc collect I assume that anyone that wants any info from them can get it, including car manufacturers. So it’s just one more company collecting info about my habits so it is what it is to me. Probably not the right mindset but unless we go back to “dumb” phones, stop using credit cards, etc etc, there’s going to be info floating around out there about all of us.

@Tomster , I’m sure LexisNexis would’ve loved to see your Daytona speed from a few months back 🤭
 

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Got it, I just assumed they were all the same. I don’t mind the FordPass app and honestly the amount of data that Apple, Google, etc collect I assume that anyone that wants any info from them can get it, including car manufacturers. So it’s just one more company collecting info about my habits so it is what it is to me. Probably not the right mindset but unless we go back to “dumb” phones, stop using credit cards, etc etc, there’s going to be info floating around out there about all of us.

@Tomster , I’m sure LexisNexis would’ve loved to see your Daytona speed from a few months back 🤭
There was a story about a guy who was enrolled in the program. He had a track weekend and all of a sudden, his insurance company dropped him and his future quotes were almost impossible. He was enrolled in this sharing program and didn't know it.
 

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There was a story about a guy who was enrolled in the program. He had a track weekend and all of a sudden, his insurance company dropped him and his future quotes were almost impossible. He was enrolled in this sharing program and didn't know it.
That’s crazy. Assuming he had track insurance, you’d think that all the insurance companies would’ve seen that too…
 

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That’s crazy. Assuming he had track insurance, you’d think that all the insurance companies would’ve seen that too…
All the insurance company would see is off the charts speeds and driving. I have also heard that you don't ever, ever, tell your insurance company that you participate in track events.
 

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All the insurance company would see is off the charts speeds and driving. I have also heard that you don't ever, ever, tell your insurance company that you participate in track events.
Yeah. Pretty sure insurance companies can assign whatever risk factor they want on any attribute. So, 99.9% of any voluntary disclosure might screw you.

If a company decides that people who track are more dangerous on the road, they can raise the rates.
 

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There was a story about a guy who was enrolled in the program. He had a track weekend and all of a sudden, his insurance company dropped him and his future quotes were almost impossible. He was enrolled in this sharing program and didn't know it.
Do you happen to have a link or something to search on to read more?
 

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Do you happen to have a link or something to search on to read more?
It was posted here a long time ago. You can search it just as well as I can.
 

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It was posted here a long time ago. You can search it just as well as I can.
I can now that you eliminated the hundreds of thousands of other sites it might have been on. :wink:
 

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I can now that you eliminated the hundreds of thousands of other sites it might have been on. :wink:
It was here. Honestly, I don't have time to search it.
 

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How do you opt out.

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In the connectivity menu, I believe there's one in there called "insurance sharing" or something similar. Just have to make sure it's not checked. I don't think it's enabled by default (and on my car I wasn't even able to enable it, it was always greyed out), but anything is possible.

Instead of pulling the fuse, I just removed fordpass permissions from my car, deleted the app from my phone, and then disabled connectivity entirely in the menu. I'm not exactly sure if it disables telemetry as well, but it seems to turn off most of the system that would include anything personally identifiable.
 

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In the connectivity menu, I believe there's one in there called "insurance sharing" or something similar. Just have to make sure it's not checked. I don't think it's enabled by default (and on my car I wasn't even able to enable it, it was always greyed out), but anything is possible.

Instead of pulling the fuse, I just removed fordpass permissions from my car, deleted the app from my phone, and then disabled connectivity entirely in the menu. I'm not exactly sure if it disables telemetry as well, but it seems to turn off most of the system that would include anything personally identifiable.
I think we all went down this road. The car still transmits data to Ford. What they do with it when permissions are removed? I don't know. But the only way to stop data being sent is to shut the modem off. Pull the fuse or pull the cable.
 

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I knew about pulling fuse and disconnecting the module, did not know about the connectivity function in sync to check it to see if enabled or not.

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