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[Strokerswild]

You're singing to the choir. I had a '17 ZL1 and it was an unbelievable performer in all aspects. The only thing I hope is the 500 doesn't have the ridiculous low end torque like my 350. However it shouldn't with the puffer on it. Correct?

Eh?

The one thing the GT350 I drove didn't have was ridiculous low end torque, far from it. And the GT500, like any positive-displacement-blown car, will have a shitload of bottom end.

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[DekiDoo]

So when the car crosses the hurdles you’ve set up for it, you’ll still not give it the credit due. But you’ll still talk up the competition.

spunds like all the rest of your posts. Should just copy and paste your favorite thumbs down emoji and save yourself time in the future.

Meanwhile, back in the real world, the GT500 is winning fans and hurting feelings - as evidenced by so many of your posts.

Waaaaa waaaaa that's all I hear from you.

 

[activeGT]

Eh?

The one thing the GT350 I drove didn't have was ridiculous low end torque, far from it. And the GT500, like any positive-displacement-blown car, will have a shitload of bottom end.

ridiculously low, low end torque. As in none. Clarified.

 

[nastang87xx]

10% is 10%. If the ZL1 1LE is light, then the GT500 is 10% heavier than a light car.

Aye...depends on your denominator.


GT500/ZL1 1LE
vs
ZL1 1LE/GT500


(4080/3860) - 1 = 5.7% "heavier than the ZL1 1LE"
vs
1 - (3860/4080) = 5.4% "lighter than the GT500 CFTP"

 

[nastang87xx]

Pretty easy to explain, the car is a tick over 3800 lbs, running on 325’s in the back and 305’s front goodyear eagle F1 supercar R compound, it has more torque down low for exit speed during cornering and shorter straights, adjustable dssv dampers, and the aero provides so much downforce even in lower speeds and alpha platform.

The ZL1 1LE wing provides 300lbs of rear downforce at 150. The GT500 CFTP pushes 550lbs on the butt at 180. I'm willing to bet the cars are about equal in terms of downforce capabilities.

 

[JohnnyUtah]

I thought the GT500 was 4200+ pounds. Does the carbon pack bring it down to 4080? Was that officially released info?

 

[MaskedRacerX]

I thought the GT500 was 4200+ pounds. Does the carbon pack bring it down to 4080? Was that officially released info?

There's a ton of info here:

https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/threads/cftp-official-weight-40xx.130713/

The consensus seems to be the CFTP is 4080 lbs, not sure if there's been an official press release/Ford specs to corroborate that weight, but it's from multiple sources.

 

[02gtnh]

The ZL1 1LE wing provides 300lbs of rear downforce at 150. The GT500 CFTP pushes 550lbs on the butt at 180. I'm willing to bet the cars are about equal in terms of downforce capabilities.

Downforce is part of the equation, how much drag coming from it is the other. To bad neither list that.

 

[DekiDoo]

The ZL1 1LE wing provides 300lbs of rear downforce at 150. The GT500 CFTP pushes 550lbs on the butt at 180. I'm willing to bet the cars are about equal in terms of downforce capabilities.

I wonder how much those front dive planes help on the ZL1. I'm excited for this head to head. If the GT500 is faster than a ZL1 1LE, that will be one hell of a time on any track

 

[nastang87xx]

I wonder how much those front dive planes help on the ZL1. I'm excited for this head to head. If the GT500 is faster than a ZL1 1LE, that will be one hell of a time on any track

So dive planes don't actually generate downforce themselves (well, maybe a little but their fundamental function isn't direct downforce) but instead they create vortexes around the car. These vortex streams redirect air around the car and preventing the flow of high pressure air to enter areas like the wheel wells and the under body around the edges of the chassis, thus preventing lift. And just like anything aero related, one size or shape does not fit all and placement and design is not black and white. One must be extremely diligent when it comes to installing canards or dive planes as like always, you could severely screw up your aero profile and make things even worse.

 

[DekiDoo]

So dive planes don't actually generate downforce themselves (well, maybe a little but their fundamental function isn't direct downforce) but instead they create vortexes around the car. These vortex streams redirect air around the car and preventing the flow of high pressure air to enter areas like the wheel wells and the under body around the edges of the chassis, thus preventing lift. And just like anything aero related, one size or shape does not fit all and placement and design is not black and white. One must be extremely diligent when it comes to installing canards or dive planes as like always, you could severely screw up your aero profile and make things even worse.

Had no idea, thanks man.

 

[9secondko]

Waaaaa waaaaa that's all I hear from you.

only when I’m quoting your posts...

 

[Hack]

Aye...depends on your denominator.


GT500/ZL1 1LE
vs
ZL1 1LE/GT500


(4080/3860) - 1 = 5.7% "heavier than the ZL1 1LE"
vs
1 - (3860/4080) = 5.4% "lighter than the GT500 CFTP"

I was using 4200 for the GT500 base car and 3800 for the ZL1 1LE. 400 lb weight difference divided by 3800 lbs is about 10%. But yes you are right, the CFTP GT500s are lighter.

My main point was that the Camaro is no light weight either.

 

[ALUSA]

The ZL1 1LE wing provides 300lbs of rear downforce at 150. The GT500 CFTP pushes 550lbs on the butt at 180. I'm willing to bet the cars are about equal in terms of downforce capabilities.

Lets assume they both have equal down force, one having wider R compound tires, lighter weight and adjustable track dampers, the other having narrower tires with more weight, which car would actually efficiently utilize the downforce to it’s advantage during cornering and exit speed?

 

[9secondko]

Lets assume they both have equal down force, one having wider R compound tires, lighter weight and adjustable track dampers, the other having narrower tires with more weight, which car would actually efficiently utilize the downforce to it’s advantage during cornering and exit speed?

more power. Better suspension geometry, better tire compound, greater downforce all in favor of the GT500. The fact that the suspension isn’t going to hop on a hard hit is actually a plus in this case.

it would appear that not only will the GT500 be faster, it will corner better. The small difference in tire width is more than accounted for in compound.

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